AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data • Hacker News Board

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by adventured » Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 6:43 AM UTC

negrit wrote: post #77

The issue with this kind of fine is that the profit is greater than the fine so they will continue to do shady things like this. Also people in charge for approving this should be held accountable.

The premise is for the FCC's fine to also act as a warning shot.

If AT&T doesn't change behavior, the next fine will be more. The FCC has claimed the high ground against AT&T and Verizon, as witnessed by the net neutrality victory.

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by ksec » Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 7:25 AM UTC

On a side note, I wonder if one day, 5G, or 6G even, will allow us to have Complete Wireless Broadband. No more Last Mile Wired connection. No longer need G.Fast or VDSL2. Just Wireless connection that gives you 100Mbps ( Real world ) with unlimited data.

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by KJasper » Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 7:27 AM UTC

redblacktree wrote: post #106

KJasper wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can make 200M and have a risk of paying 100M in the worst case you still make 100M more than you would without doing it. So it's basically calculated risk for these companies.

Sure, but you would still prefer to never pay the 100M.

ofcourse and they won't. Companies never pay the initial fine...

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by unprepare » Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 12:51 PM UTC

redblacktree wrote: post #106

KJasper wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can make 200M and have a risk of paying 100M in the worst case you still make 100M more than you would without doing it. So it's basically calculated risk for these companies.

Sure, but you would still prefer to never pay the 100M.

Not more than you would prefer to make the 200MM and risk losing 100MM of it.

again calculated risk, if theres even a chance that they walk away with all 200mm, and no chance that they end up with 0 or less, then it's worth pursuing.

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by gregwtmtno » Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 1:29 PM UTC

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #152

gregwtmtno wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there's too much congestion to provide LTE speeds in a certain area, they shouldn't be able to advertise LTE speeds in that area. Or they should build more capacity to manage the congestion.

Maybe an office building is a little narrow for an 'area'?

I'm talking about the entire neighborhood. (Manhattan's Financial District)

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by jschwartzi » Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 1:51 PM UTC

fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #109

If this were a just world, in order to appeal the fine AT&T would have to first pay the fine, Net 30, and deal with the federal courts via an outsourced call-center in order to receive a credit on their account.

And the credit might or might not apply during the next three billing cycles. Is there anything else I can help you with today? No? Have a nice day!

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by myth_buster » Fri, Jun 19, 2015, 2:15 PM UTC

bbcbasic wrote: post #140

Frozenlock wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the equivalent of some police officers catching a thief and keeping the money for themselves. "Aren't you glad we are here to protect you?"

I have no idea if that statement is serious or ironic.

I think they are being sarcastic...

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by redblacktree » Mon, Jun 22, 2015, 2:39 PM UTC

unprepare wrote: post #164

redblacktree wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but you would still prefer to never pay the 100M.

Not more than you would prefer to make the 200MM and risk losing 100MM of it. again calculated risk, if theres even a chance that they walk away with all 200mm, and no chance that they end up with 0 or less, then it's worth pursuing.

I'm trying to say that they would have preferred to not get caught.

Re: AT&T fined $100M after slowing down its ‘unlimited’ data

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Post by pyrocat » Mon, Jun 22, 2015, 8:32 PM UTC

KJasper wrote: post #44

ProAm wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one wants to lose 100M, no one.

If you can make 200M and have a risk of paying 100M in the worst case you still make 100M more than you would without doing it. So it's basically calculated risk for these companies.

And therein lies the problem with most methods of government regulation. The worst that happens is usually a fine. Certain violations need to start carrying mandatory jail sentences.