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Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Plenty of time for the thief to unplug and take that nice shiny PC with the video stored, and the nest cam with it. That's the awesome part! You don't even need a local PC to store the video. It all gets sent to a remote Secure Server where it gets stored (and is accessible, if you purchase that add-on) and streamed!

most people I know would find the idea of their living room being streamed to a remote server "creepy" rather than "awesome".

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Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

#12
post #4

My gut reaction is that I'll be paying money to install my telescreen? I have this slightly panicky feeling that my perception of what's acceptable sharing of private data is so disconnected from current popular sentiment that I'm becoming a bitter outsider. I'm sure it's technically well executed as expected from Google management but I do hope it bombs as a product for (to me) obvious reasons.

Exact reason we went for an IP cam that stores a buffer to MicroSD for our baby camera. It runs its own WiFi server rather than being connected to our router (and therefore the Internet), so we can still monitor it from other rooms from laptop/tablet/phone. This is one thing (of many) that I definitely think should not be recording to remote servers.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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post #4

My gut reaction is that I'll be paying money to install my telescreen? I have this slightly panicky feeling that my perception of what's acceptable sharing of private data is so disconnected from current popular sentiment that I'm becoming a bitter outsider. I'm sure it's technically well executed as expected from Google management but I do hope it bombs as a product for (to me) obvious reasons.

It's (functionally) a Dropcam. Dropcam's been around for several years now. They're owned by Nest/Google now, so this is the first branded product from them under Nest. You can believe that they're actually encrypting the video as they say they are, or not, I suppose, but there are plenty of non-cloud-based options available. For me, this was the easiest way to get cameras up where I needed them, with a really nice m…

For me, this was the easiest way to get cameras up where I needed them

Why did you need cameras?

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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post #4

My gut reaction is that I'll be paying money to install my telescreen? I have this slightly panicky feeling that my perception of what's acceptable sharing of private data is so disconnected from current popular sentiment that I'm becoming a bitter outsider. I'm sure it's technically well executed as expected from Google management but I do hope it bombs as a product for (to me) obvious reasons.

> My gut reaction is that I'll be paying money to install my telescreen?

That about covers it really.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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post #4

My gut reaction is that I'll be paying money to install my telescreen? I have this slightly panicky feeling that my perception of what's acceptable sharing of private data is so disconnected from current popular sentiment that I'm becoming a bitter outsider. I'm sure it's technically well executed as expected from Google management but I do hope it bombs as a product for (to me) obvious reasons.

It's (functionally) a Dropcam. Dropcam's been around for several years now. They're owned by Nest/Google now, so this is the first branded product from them under Nest. You can believe that they're actually encrypting the video as they say they are, or not, I suppose, but there are plenty of non-cloud-based options available. For me, this was the easiest way to get cameras up where I needed them, with a really nice m…

>You can believe that they're actually encrypting the video as they say they are, or not, I suppose,

I believe they encrypt the video (and audio) between the camera and their servers but they deal with the unencrypted 'goods' when they stream it back to you in real time or as a DVR.

You trust them. You can do that.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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Do you really need 1080p for detecting that a breakin is in progress?

By the way, as a geek, I am more interested in hearing more about the back end detection algorithm. I guess that the linked page is a marketing blub...

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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Do you really need 1080p for detecting that a breakin is in progress? By the way, as a geek, I am more interested in hearing more about the back end detection algorithm. I guess that the linked page is a marketing blub...

No, but the higher resolution is useful for seeing the details of the person doing it, like possibly the face.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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post #4

My gut reaction is that I'll be paying money to install my telescreen? I have this slightly panicky feeling that my perception of what's acceptable sharing of private data is so disconnected from current popular sentiment that I'm becoming a bitter outsider. I'm sure it's technically well executed as expected from Google management but I do hope it bombs as a product for (to me) obvious reasons.

Exact reason we went for an IP cam that stores a buffer to MicroSD for our baby camera. It runs its own WiFi server rather than being connected to our router (and therefore the Internet), so we can still monitor it from other rooms from laptop/tablet/phone. This is one thing (of many) that I definitely think should not be recording to remote servers.

What model did you use? Looking to add these to my home.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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post #4

My gut reaction is that I'll be paying money to install my telescreen? I have this slightly panicky feeling that my perception of what's acceptable sharing of private data is so disconnected from current popular sentiment that I'm becoming a bitter outsider. I'm sure it's technically well executed as expected from Google management but I do hope it bombs as a product for (to me) obvious reasons.

Popular sentiment isn't really a sensible thing to compare with. Most people have no idea how technology works nor a proper understanding of what they're actually exposing themselves to.

Products like this would be great if they could somehow be plugged into a user's existing, personal ecosystem (cf. concept of distributed personal cloud). I'm working towards this but it'll take time before such things are fully baked [1] (and there's also the question of business models).

Until then, we're just going to see more and more devices that require external back ends to operate and our homes/lives will become ever more porous, to (eventually) ever fewer companies.

[1] http://nymote.org/blog/2013/introducing-nymote/

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