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Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should probably check your facts on this.

I mean, I just read the news articles that that person posted. If you have evidence to the contrary of these stories, by all means bring it to light.

So the larger point is that you are triviallizing legitimate issues whithout yourself having a grasp on what those issues really are.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were that the case she wouldn't offer to drop her appeal for $2.7 million.

Her offering a high or higher number doesn't imply that she was only out for cash. Perhaps that amount was what she considered sufficient to punish KP appropriately. And for the record: Consider this statement as me playing the race card. But look: I wasn't on the jury, and I haven't reviewed the court records, and like everyone else here I'm playing armchair quarterback.

If she wanted to punish KP, she should've said that she would donate whatever she wins minus legal bills to a charity.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#123
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I just read the news articles that that person posted. If you have evidence to the contrary of these stories, by all means bring it to light.

So the larger point is that you are triviallizing legitimate issues whithout yourself having a grasp on what those issues really are.

Uh. Is this apropos of anything? It seems unrelated to the comment you're responding to. Are you a bot?

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#124
post #52

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Because banning certain reddits is a value to no-one and a disvalue to everyone. It does not add value to me to have subreddits Ellen Pao personally disagrees with be banned. Rather, it takes away value. And now that the precedent has been set, the same will be the case with future reddit leadership.

Do you really think Ellen came in one day from a mountain on high and decreed "these subreddits shall be banned"? What planet are you from that you think a company is run that way?

She's the CEO, it happened under her watch.

> What planet are you from that you think a company is run that way?

Well, not a planet where I try to persuade people of my views by sarcastically asking what planet they're from. That is not an argument and it's devoid of intellectual content.

> Ellen

So you are on a first-name basis with her? Maybe you can tell us the inside story. Otherwise, calling someone by a first name alone is vulgar.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#125

Chairwoman Pao owes every penny. She was not discriminated against because she is a woman, she was discriminated against because she is a terrible employee, venture capitalist, and person. She sued Kleiner because she wanted to pay off the debt her scumbag husband owes for fraud. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletch...

Go back to reddit. This comment is over the line. Your other comment in this discussion is even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9736628

I dislike Pao, the lawsuit, and the surrounding politics but I agree that this is unacceptable.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#126
post #116

This thread provides a nice crash course in the mentality and tactics that KiA and related manbaby trolls and hate groups are polluting reddit/the Internet with. Every act of moderation is Ellen Pao's fault, here's a bunch of unsubstantiated FUD about how everyone who got moderated was innocent and we'll constantly repeat these peripheral allegations about her husband. It's incredibly transparent and shameless. "Down…

My big question is: are we ever going to get past this crap? Or is this the enlightened future of discourse. I guess I'm just getting old -- the gish gallop isn't new, but this form feels more terrible and insidious.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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post #109

From the prosecution: https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1672... From the defence: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/25617... --- Personal opinion below ---- Not necessarily relevant (I believe it is) but provides some more of a background is her husband (whom she married in 2007) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Fletcher . Why it's relevant in my opinion? An old saying…

It is disgusting that you think it's acceptable to tar someone with the alleged crimes of their spouse.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#128
post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go back to reddit. This comment is over the line. Your other comment in this discussion is even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9736628

I dislike Pao, the lawsuit, and the surrounding politics but I agree that this is unacceptable.

Sounds like you support censorship. Did you even read the article?

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#129
post #116

This thread provides a nice crash course in the mentality and tactics that KiA and related manbaby trolls and hate groups are polluting reddit/the Internet with. Every act of moderation is Ellen Pao's fault, here's a bunch of unsubstantiated FUD about how everyone who got moderated was innocent and we'll constantly repeat these peripheral allegations about her husband. It's incredibly transparent and shameless. "Down…

Who is KiA?

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

#130
post #116

This thread provides a nice crash course in the mentality and tactics that KiA and related manbaby trolls and hate groups are polluting reddit/the Internet with. Every act of moderation is Ellen Pao's fault, here's a bunch of unsubstantiated FUD about how everyone who got moderated was innocent and we'll constantly repeat these peripheral allegations about her husband. It's incredibly transparent and shameless. "Down…

My big question is: are we ever going to get past this crap? Or is this the enlightened future of discourse. I guess I'm just getting old -- the gish gallop isn't new, but this form feels more terrible and insidious.

The sad statement about the level of discourse is that you apparently care about it but still think granparent comment qualifies. It even breaks the first two rules of HN commenting guidelines: be civil, don't call people names.
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