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Re: Programmer search engine

#42

Yeah, charing for participation is silly. It reduces the number of potential candidates. Headhunters have the equation right: Charge when you actually hook people up. Not sure how you'd solve the problem of people finding each other on Programmer Search and then just emailing each other externally.

> Yeah, charing for participation is silly. It reduces the number of potential candidates.

I'd call that a feature. It cuts down on the resume spam. By charging $100 you create a filter to reduce the noise. It makes the people with jobs happier because they don't get as much crap and you make he job hunters happier as it's now easier for them to find jobs.

Everyone wins by charging.

Re: Programmer search engine

#43
post #29

In the spirit of XKCD Explained: Joel Spolsky thinks we should all hire people who regularly use his software. He thinks those people are cool and he really likes how their time, effort and reputation on his site are something they can sell to recruiters for additional revenue. This is literally his dream come true.

You're right. I wonder if this was part of the plan for stack overflow from the beginning. This is an ingenious way to monetize its existing user base while creating incentives for stack overflow users to keep creating valuable content for free.

Speaking of, I wonder how many millions an open HN job board could make? The people I'd like to hire are stackoverflow, github, and HN users.

Re: Programmer search engine

#44

I would prefer a programmer search engine based on Github, where people write code, to StackOverflow, where people talk about code.

I think it should be a combination of both GitHub and StackOverflow. GitHub is great to see if the person can code, and a very crucial part of hiring. StackOverflow is great to see if a person can communicate, which I think is as important as having the ability to code.

I've come across many programmers that can code well, but had horrible communications skills. It's always difficult to interact with these programmers. I spend more time extracting the meaning of what they're saying rather than getting work done.

Re: Programmer search engine

#45
Why would I pay $100 for this instead of using a free website like ComputerJobs.com, Dice.com, Monster.com etc? I'd think the quality of employers would be about the same.

So far I see zero benefits for me but lots of moola for JoS.

Re: Programmer search engine

#46
I tried the free trial search, that he uses in his OCaml/Houston example. I find it quite hard to believe that there is a Common Lisp programmer in Bagdad, AZ and a Clojure programmer in Window Rock, AZ.

Re: Programmer search engine

#47

I tried the free trial search, that he uses in his OCaml/Houston example. I find it quite hard to believe that there is a Common Lisp programmer in Bagdad, AZ and a Clojure programmer in Window Rock, AZ.

Well, the OCaml kid is legit, but, no, there are no lisp programmers in Bagdad or Clojure programmers in Window Rock... did someone say there were? Do you need one? Window Rock is a dusty tiny town, seat of the Navajo Nation--I've actually been there, it has one grocery store and a single strip mall.

Maybe you did a search that had 1 result, and then you edited your search, and the Ajax refresh didn't come back fast enough so it still showed one?

Re: Programmer search engine

#48

I tried the free trial search, that he uses in his OCaml/Houston example. I find it quite hard to believe that there is a Common Lisp programmer in Bagdad, AZ and a Clojure programmer in Window Rock, AZ.

try { ... } catch(CodeNotWrittenInTheRightCityException e) { // unreachable }

Re: Programmer search engine

#49
post #44

I would prefer a programmer search engine based on Github, where people write code, to StackOverflow, where people talk about code.

I think it should be a combination of both GitHub and StackOverflow. GitHub is great to see if the person can code, and a very crucial part of hiring. StackOverflow is great to see if a person can communicate, which I think is as important as having the ability to code. I've come across many programmers that can code well, but had horrible communications skills. It's always difficult to interact with these programmer…

"StackOverflow is great to see if a person can communicate ..."

... on StackOverflow.

Meanwhile, the great bulk of programmer communication is happening on blogs, mailing lists, and IRC.

You're very right that written and verbal communication is important, but you have to look in the right places for it.

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