Technical recruiters make ridiculous amounts of money for moving people between companies. If this is successful it will be very lucrative for FogCreek.
Programmer search engine
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#12I said it before and I'll say it again -- charging people looking for jobs is ridiculous. I don't know who the kid in Houston looking for an OCaml internship is, but how the heck does he have $100 to spend on this?
Considering the job you have has a massive impact on your personal happiness it makes a lot of sense to improve your odds of finding the right company to work for. The cost of careers.stackoverflow is nothing compared to the cost of actually taking an interview (easily 8+ hours). If because of stackoverflow you can get by with one interview less it's easily worth it.
Besides, if you have 3 great offers on the table I'm sure you'll be able able to negotiate a $100/year raise to recoup the careers.stackoverflow investment.
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#13So these are people who are unemployed or risking getting fired by looking for a job in public? Isn't it better to find people who already have a job they like and try to convince them that they would be even happier in your company?
Posting you resume on a jobs site does not necessarily mean you are actively looking for a job. And I highly doubt an employer would fire someone just for having their resume publicly posted. Besides, if you’re employer is that fickle, maybe you should have your resume out there, just in case.
Actually the story they are pitching is that when you find someone's resume online and email them job offer, they might not be available. They are trying to solve this problem by showing only people actively looking for jobs in search results. It is similar to Github's "I'm available for hire" checkbox announced couple days ago.
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#14So these are people who are unemployed or risking getting fired by looking for a job in public? Isn't it better to find people who already have a job they like and try to convince them that they would be even happier in your company?
Posting you resume on a jobs site does not necessarily mean you are actively looking for a job. And I highly doubt an employer would fire someone just for having their resume publicly posted. Besides, if you’re employer is that fickle, maybe you should have your resume out there, just in case.
What would you think if you saw that one of your employees recently started paying money to receive offers for a new job?
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#15He says, "It would show you CVs right away", but I can't find a way to search candidates without signing up. Am I missing something?
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#16Technical recruiters make ridiculous amounts of money for moving people between companies. If this is successful it will be very lucrative for FogCreek.
But that's because traditional recruiters usually take a % of the person's salary.
Stackoverflow only charges a subscription fee for searching the database so they probably won't make as much.
If you are a hiring manager, you can test-drive our search interface any time and get an idea of how many matches you'll find. No surprises here. But if you'd like to view candidate details and make contact, you'll need a subscription:
* 1 week subscription is $500
* 1 month subscription is $1,000
* 6 month subscription is $3,000
* 1 year subscription is $5,000Re: Programmer search engine
#17I said it before and I'll say it again -- charging people looking for jobs is ridiculous. I don't know who the kid in Houston looking for an OCaml internship is, but how the heck does he have $100 to spend on this?
To spend $100 in order to find a better job, I think is worth it. $100 isn't a lot of money, especially when you consider it an investment into your future.
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#18I said it before and I'll say it again -- charging people looking for jobs is ridiculous. I don't know who the kid in Houston looking for an OCaml internship is, but how the heck does he have $100 to spend on this?
$100? If nothing else, an entrance fee cuts down the numbers of resumé spammers.
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#19I'm too lazy to look at the site, but I'm wondering how they are solving the problem of people forgetting/not bothering to uncheck the "available" option? I suppose if they charge a small fee, people would have an incentive to delist themselves after they find a job.
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#20Won't this have the same problem as linkedin, programmers will delist themselves when they started getting daily calls from desperate recruiters ?