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Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by bambax »

simonh wrote: post #12
shogun21 wrote: post #3

Eight years behind Google. I'm interested to see how quickly they can catch up!

It's unlikely to take anything like 8 years. Much of Google's effort during that time has been refreshing images of streets they had already visited. If Google has visted a street 4 times to keep the data up to date, Apple only has to visit it once to be just as up to date (and continue to visit regularly after that to stay up to date, of course). edit: mixmastamyk beat me to it by 1 minute, so +1 to you sir.

That's not entirely true; Google does not refresh all of its data every cycle: some "rare" locations (where few people live) have been visited only once during those 8 years.

To catch up you need to cover all locations, not just the frequent ones, so that takes more than one cycle.

Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by Robin_Message »

It's great that they provide this detailed what location when data.

However, it demonstrates that their maps still have some way to go. E.g. They are driving around southern Hertfordshire this week, where I used to live. Dacorum is a borough, not the name of an actual place; I've never heard of Hertsmere or the three rivers; and Welwyn Hatfield are two adjacent towns. 3 out of 7 place names is not great.

Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by roflchoppa »

jobu wrote: post #18
danso wrote: post #6

This is impressive...while I'll be using Google Maps on iOS for a long time to come...Google has such a lead that creating one's own geospatial dataset seems tantamount to reinventing the wheel...yet, it seems dangerous to not have competition in this area, as it gives one company almost unilateral power to define the existence of geography (at least for day-to-day usage). And of course, using Google Maps means buyin…

For me the biggest problem with Apple Maps on iOS is usability, not data. The first thing I've ever seen anyone do when they start a route on Apple Maps is pinching to zoom out. No, you need to use the overview button. Wait, where's the overview button? You need to tap the map to show the button, and then tap the button and it shows the whole route. After that you have to zoom back in to see what's coming up next in…

oh man that drives me up the wall, but i also noticed that it drives my mother up the wall too, i guess even a 50 year old lady with limited tech experience also saw through that flaw.

Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by cpmsmith »

nav1 wrote: post #4
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #2

Does anyone have a photo of one of these vehicles? I'd love to see it. Apple is certainly in the long game with their maps... One interesting thing to point out is that while google streetview started as a project to augment the maps with photos, it quickly became clear that these photos of the streets could be a primary way to gather accurate real-world data about the streets, one-way signs, street numbers, and so o…

This article has one: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/06/17/apple-maps-vehicles-engl...

Interesting to note from the photo that Maps has its own subdomain. I'd bet on a web interface in the near-ish future.

Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by fredleblanc »

Robin_Message wrote: post #24

It's great that they provide this detailed what location when data. However, it demonstrates that their maps still have some way to go. E.g. They are driving around southern Hertfordshire this week, where I used to live. Dacorum is a borough, not the name of an actual place; I've never heard of Hertsmere or the three rivers; and Welwyn Hatfield are two adjacent towns. 3 out of 7 place names is not great.

Not sure that it helps, but the one local to me is Massachusetts, USA, and they describe it as "Suffolk (Boston)," where Suffolk is the county name. No one would use that in day-to-day talk… maybe they have some more or semi-official name of a "region" in your area?

Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by esmi »

Oletros wrote: post #16
danso wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what your question is asking...but what I mean is that Google Maps are ostensibly improved by analyzing how users use the app and how they seem to utilize the information...I imagine just as Google search tracks which search results you click -- and also, if you hit the Back button, and how long it took you to do that -- in order to evaluate SERP effectiveness, there must be some kind of feedback for Goo…

Then you won't have things like live traffic, it is a tradeoff

Why? User data is only one way to measure traffic. There are others.

Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by piyush_soni »

danso wrote: post #10
Oletros wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you talk about user-information-sharing-system you mean Google having the information about maps use, so, you sharing the map use information with Google, isn't?

I'm not sure what your question is asking...but what I mean is that Google Maps are ostensibly improved by analyzing how users use the app and how they seem to utilize the information...I imagine just as Google search tracks which search results you click -- and also, if you hit the Back button, and how long it took you to do that -- in order to evaluate SERP effectiveness, there must be some kind of feedback for Goo…

Slowly, gradually, they will start doing that. The trade off for them is too much. Previously they claimed they don't read your personal emails like Google does. They soon realized they were losing big customer base because of people preferring Google Now over the pretty useless Siri. Now they have announced Siri Proactive, but for offering those features it has to read your personal emails. Now they claim they do read emails, but everything will stay on their phone. On the whole, users want intelligent features, and if Apple doesn't give it to them, they're going to go away.

Re: Apple Maps Vehicles

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Post by pyrophane »

danso wrote: post #6

This is impressive...while I'll be using Google Maps on iOS for a long time to come...Google has such a lead that creating one's own geospatial dataset seems tantamount to reinventing the wheel...yet, it seems dangerous to not have competition in this area, as it gives one company almost unilateral power to define the existence of geography (at least for day-to-day usage). And of course, using Google Maps means buyin…

Google Maps data is better right now, no question, but I've been using Apple Maps in iOS recently because of performance. I've found that the Google Maps app is frequently unresponsive and often takes significantly longer to load data, which is particularly noticeable when I have a less reliable cellular data connection.

Has anyone else noticed this difference between the two apps?

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