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Re: My Position On The Disney Layoffs

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Post by marknutter »

melling wrote: post #19
shas3 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Protectionism doesn't work. There is wide consensus among economists on comparative advantage [1]. Healthy, non-protectionist immigration policies have been proposed to have similar effects as free trade [2,3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage [2] http://www.economics.uci.edu/files/docs/micro/s07/Peri.pdf [3] http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100008723963904434771045775512...

How do you determine what's "healthy"? Millions of Americans are caught in an endless cycle of poverty and we're fighting a $15 minimum wage. We've shipped millions of manufacturing jobs to China so it's harder to get a good job without a college education. Now we want to reduce the salaries of well-paid jobs by onshoring them. I'd say we should take a closer look at what we're actually doing.

Wouldn't raising the minimum was make shipping jobs to China even more attractive?

Re: My Position On The Disney Layoffs

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Post by kogus »

coldcode wrote: post #5

"... and they routinely sacrificed personal time and freedoms to help make your experience in the parks what it was". Never do this unless its a startup you own. You get paid for X to do Y hours and nothing more. Anything more is volunteer work for a for-profit employer.

That's a pretty cynical attitude. It's definitely possible to work for a for-profit company and still care personally about the success of whatever they are doing. You don't have a moral obligation to bend over backwards for a company, but it's ok to be committed for reasons other than a paycheck.

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Post by Frondo »

marknutter wrote: post #21
melling wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you determine what's "healthy"? Millions of Americans are caught in an endless cycle of poverty and we're fighting a $15 minimum wage. We've shipped millions of manufacturing jobs to China so it's harder to get a good job without a college education. Now we want to reduce the salaries of well-paid jobs by onshoring them. I'd say we should take a closer look at what we're actually doing.

Wouldn't raising the minimum was make shipping jobs to China even more attractive?

No, because you can't ship a Burger King job to China.

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Post by dataker »

Like Americans, such unscrupulous program also ends up hurting genuinely talented and skilled foreign workers.

Many 'consulting firms' end up hiring/slaving thousands of workers(hence using the H1-b quota), whereas others(not exploiting the loophole) end up not getting called on the lottery.

A rational and realistic discussion is necessary, but most end up becoming too biased and extreme("don't let anyone come here").

Re: My Position On The Disney Layoffs

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Post by cbsmith »

justizin wrote: post #4

"I'm sharing news about it because this experience has taught me the H-1B Visa program needs to change to protect others in the future." Anyone who still supports FWD.us and believes that the US doesn't produce enough professionals to satisfy the needs of our businesses is straight up, while they are reading this, actually holding a crack pipe to their mouth.

....because they could have done this without an H-1B Visa program, and in fact, even in the hospitality service, they probably could move a lot of those jobs flat out overseas. Arguably the H-1B Visa program at least keeps the US labour market somewhat competitive with the overseas markets.

No, there are a bunch of problems here, but access to immigrant labour on domestic soil isn't really even near the top of my list.

Re: My Position On The Disney Layoffs

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Post by mlrtime »

To voice your opinion, email guest.services@disneyworld.com.

This was the reply I received:

Dear Guest,

Thank you for contacting us regarding recent media reports about the information technology restructuring at Disney Parks.

We greatly value the contributions of our Cast Members. We take great pride in the fact that we have regularly been ranked as one of the best places to work in the United States, but we are always looking for ways to improve.

Contrary to the misleading impression conveyed by certain media outlets, our recent IT restructuring actually resulted in the expansion of our Disney Parks IT team and the net addition of 70 new IT jobs in the United States. That's in addition to the nearly 30,000 jobs we've added in the U.S. over the last 10 years. And all of our efforts are geared toward enhancing our ability to deliver the best possible experiences for our Guests.

We appreciate your feedback on this issue.

Sincerely,

Matthew Cooper Guest Experience Services Walt Disney World Resort

Re: My Position On The Disney Layoffs

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Post by theklub »

matwood wrote: post #18
kirinan wrote: post #6

I usually don't comment on immigration policies because I'm a US citizen and have never been an immigrant worker, however I dont believe this affects the long term success or failure of the H1B visa program and nor should it. We do exist in a global economy and you must therefore compete globally. If a company feels that they can get equal talent to mine in another country for cheaper costs then so be it; I didn't do…

> We do exist in a global economy and you must therefore compete globally. I completely agree, but that's not what the H1-B visa program does. It allows companies to lock in immigrant workers at a lower rate and little to no job mobility. From a companies standpoint it is obviously what they want - pay less, and job lock in! The fix for the H1-B is true immigration reform. We need to make it easy for people to come t…

Why do we need to make it easy for people to come take our jobs? Why would we do that?
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