Comparing Node.js with Tcl
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Comparing Node.js with Tcl
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Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#2So some Node written by a self-confessed Node novice, based on a 'hello world' example, and running on an old(ish) verson of Node is actually quite similar in performance terms compared to TCL written by someone who knows how to write a TCL server from scratch. That is not a reasonable comparison. Get someone with some Node experience to write the Node server, then compare them.
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#3If it really matters that much how many connections per second you can handle, perhaps Node is not the right tool for the job. Try Go instead, which also runs on multiple cores more naturally.
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#4So some Node written by a self-confessed Node novice, based on a 'hello world' example, and running on an old(ish) verson of Node is actually quite similar in performance terms compared to TCL written by someone who knows how to write a TCL server from scratch. That is not a reasonable comparison. Get someone with some Node experience to write the Node server, then compare them.
He uses the Hello World code from http://howtonode.org/hello-node so he did not write the Node version.
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#5So some Node written by a self-confessed Node novice, based on a 'hello world' example, and running on an old(ish) verson of Node is actually quite similar in performance terms compared to TCL written by someone who knows how to write a TCL server from scratch. That is not a reasonable comparison. Get someone with some Node experience to write the Node server, then compare them.
He uses the Hello World code from http://howtonode.org/hello-node so he did not write the Node version.
The point it that he's comparing his TCL code (which is as fast as he could be bothered to make it) to a 'hello world' tutorial that was written as an introduction to Node, not as anything that was designed to demonstrate Node is in any way fast.
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
He uses the Hello World code from http://howtonode.org/hello-node so he did not write the Node version.
The point it that he's comparing his TCL code (which is as fast as he could be bothered to make it) to a 'hello world' tutorial that was written as an introduction to Node, not as anything that was designed to demonstrate Node is in any way fast.
The 'hello world' example is a good comparator: Presumably the Node developers have optimised the `http` library as much (if not more) than the author's Tcl equivalent. Given that they are therefore doing the same thing, it seems a fair test. Beyond forking new Node processes to handle more requests, I don't think you could make it faster (likewise with the Tcl version).
That said, while it's a fair test, I don't think it's a particularly useful one. It would be interesting to see how the two compete when they do something equivalent but non-trivial.
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#7This is a very silly comparison.
There's a huge difference in terms of features and reliability between node's http module and this - http://pietersz.co.uk/software/dandelion-server
I'm sure an equally minimal http implementation using the net module would match or beat that, but since you'd never use either of them in production, the results are meaningless.
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#8So some Node written by a self-confessed Node novice, based on a 'hello world' example, and running on an old(ish) verson of Node is actually quite similar in performance terms compared to TCL written by someone who knows how to write a TCL server from scratch. That is not a reasonable comparison. Get someone with some Node experience to write the Node server, then compare them.
Yeah, even for a benchmark it isn't that good, but I still get sad when I'm reminded that Tcl had all this event-loopy stuff thats' the selling point of Node for years and years. So much wasted opportunity with that language...
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#9This is a very silly comparison. There's a huge difference in terms of features and reliability between node's http module and this - http://pietersz.co.uk/software/dandelion-server I'm sure an equally minimal http implementation using the net module would match or beat that, but since you'd never use either of them in production, the results are meaningless.
I mean, I love Node for building my webapps, but if I had to write a fast HTTP server for pure speed I'd probably go with C. But I use Node for NPM just like anyone would use Ruby for Gem. It makes it easy to get a production ready rest app upp and running. I agree with what you said, I don't see the point of this comparison.
Re: Comparing Node.js with Tcl
#10This is a very silly comparison. There's a huge difference in terms of features and reliability between node's http module and this - http://pietersz.co.uk/software/dandelion-server I'm sure an equally minimal http implementation using the net module would match or beat that, but since you'd never use either of them in production, the results are meaningless.
I state the point of the comparison in the post: to see how TCL's event loop + my code compres. Node's http module is fairly lightweight, and even if something more minimal would beat my TCL code by a bit it still show what I wanted to, that they are comparable and TCL is an option for event driven servers (at least as far as performance goes)