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Profile of Linus Torvalds

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Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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Dude is 45 years old and we are already planning for his death. In other industries he would just be hitting his stride. In this one we are getting fitted for diapers.

We care about Linus dying because he is Linux. The BDFL model makes a project more dependent on one person than it really should be.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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post #53

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Well, I think that instead people should be more accepting towards others' personal imperfections. Political correctness should be avoided at all costs because it's by definition a kind of dishonest manipulation.

I don't think it's "political correctness" to prefer not to be verbally abused. Linus has admitted that he doesn't care about people: http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/linus-torvalds-on-wh...

>I don't think it's "political correctness" to prefer not to be verbally abused.

Okay? And? Nobody said that. I was replying to someone thinking we should have a more 'politically correct' open source face.

Please try and understand what is being said before replying.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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post #51

"Linux was once 10,000 lines of code and required part-time tending. It’s now 19 million lines of code, and changing it involves a complex hierarchy." Just wondered: 19 MLOC all driver code included, right?

Grabbed 4.0.5 from kernel.org and counted 19314709 lines.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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post #44

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I don't like working with people who are unpleasant to work with. Of course, if you are really good, he isn't unpleasant to you. I'm not that good, so I suppose the fact that I wouldn't want to work with Linus would be a success story from his point of view.

>I don't like working with people who are unpleasant to work with. How do you know he is unpleasant to work with?

Because Linux development is done over a public mailing list.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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I stopped reading when the author referred to Linux as an operating system.

Once upon a time, before RMS re-defined the term for his benefit, the phrase "Operating System" meant what we now call the kernel. You can see the legacy of this in Computer Science departments around the country where they teach an "Operating Systems" course which covers implementing schedulers, file systems, device drivers, etc... Maybe if the GNU folks could have made a usable kernel, they wouldn't have had to sto…

This narrative is incorrect.

As evidence, take the POSIX (Portable Operating System Interface) standard, which included portions of the user-space C library in the POSIX.1 (Core Services) published in 1988. While the name "POSIX" was suggested by RMS, the notion that it might have been part of an agenda to claim credit for Linux violates causality (the very first version of Linux was released in 1991).

POSIX.2 is "Shell And Utilities", and was published in 1992.

Clearly, the notion that the operating system extended beyond the kernel was not a fringe one.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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Yeah, that was strange.

I don't know. I also started to pronounce my name "wrong" when I was living in England to conform with how everybody else was pronouncing. I even have friends who just straight up used completely different names when living in English speaking countries to avoid the whole problem with no one pronouncing their names right.

I can relate to that latter point - My wife is Finnish and her name is often changed from Kirsi to Kirsty, to ease the pronunciation for people here in the UK.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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post #64
post #54

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>I don't like working with people who are unpleasant to work with. How do you know he is unpleasant to work with?

Because Linux development is done over a public mailing list.

Sorry, I tried to make sense of what you said, but couldn't.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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Yeah, that was strange.

I don't know. I also started to pronounce my name "wrong" when I was living in England to conform with how everybody else was pronouncing. I even have friends who just straight up used completely different names when living in English speaking countries to avoid the whole problem with no one pronouncing their names right.

My name is Kasper Grubbe. But in the UK I go by the unfortunate name of Kasper Grub.

Re: Profile of Linus Torvalds

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I don't think it's "political correctness" to prefer not to be verbally abused. Linus has admitted that he doesn't care about people: http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/linus-torvalds-on-wh...

>I don't think it's "political correctness" to prefer not to be verbally abused. Okay? And? Nobody said that. I was replying to someone thinking we should have a more 'politically correct' open source face. Please try and understand what is being said before replying.

I did "try and understand" before reply, but sometimes it is difficult to discern exact meaning. You said we should accept others imperfections, so I'm assuming you meant Linus' imperfections. That is what I was replying to. I don't think it's acceptable that people should be verbally abused, and we shouldn't "accept" it as you say.
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