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South Korea provokes teenage smartphone privacy row

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post #7

South Korea is a good example of how the proliferation of technology doesn't necessarily entail increased political freedom. They might have great internet connectivity, but it comes with all sorts of overt censorship - the government blocks numerous websites, and periodically crack down on 'false rumours' online. Previously they enforced the infamous 'real name' law aimed at preventing anonymity on arbitrarily large…

Maybe not right away, but the effect is already showing:

...learning to control what kinds of media are encountered on the net is now a part of growing up...

Don't underestimate the power of youth. The old ways won't continue unchallenged.

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post #7

South Korea is a good example of how the proliferation of technology doesn't necessarily entail increased political freedom. They might have great internet connectivity, but it comes with all sorts of overt censorship - the government blocks numerous websites, and periodically crack down on 'false rumours' online. Previously they enforced the infamous 'real name' law aimed at preventing anonymity on arbitrarily large…

Maybe not right away, but the effect is already showing: ...learning to control what kinds of media are encountered on the net is now a part of growing up... Don't underestimate the power of youth. The old ways won't continue unchallenged.

I hope you're right.

On the other hand, the 'power of youth' works both ways - it seems like a non-negligible percentage of youth in the West favour more censorship, not less - witness the rise of 'trigger warnings' and 'safe spaces' on university campuses, for example. Their aims might be quite different to those of a semi-authoritarian government, but the censorious impulse is the same.

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#14
post #6

The BBC should make look closer to home and grow some teeth and balls and challenge the horrendous and repugnant direction in which the UK government is trying to take on privacy, blanket spying on the general public, right to protest and freedom of speech.

> the horrendous and repugnant direction in which the UK government is trying to take on privacy

Well that's just your opinion. A lot of people would disagree with you.

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post #14
post #6

The BBC should make look closer to home and grow some teeth and balls and challenge the horrendous and repugnant direction in which the UK government is trying to take on privacy, blanket spying on the general public, right to protest and freedom of speech.

> the horrendous and repugnant direction in which the UK government is trying to take on privacy Well that's just your opinion. A lot of people would disagree with you.

I'm not sure a lot would...

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post #14
post #6

The BBC should make look closer to home and grow some teeth and balls and challenge the horrendous and repugnant direction in which the UK government is trying to take on privacy, blanket spying on the general public, right to protest and freedom of speech.

> the horrendous and repugnant direction in which the UK government is trying to take on privacy Well that's just your opinion. A lot of people would disagree with you.

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Re: South Korea provokes teenage smartphone privacy row

#17
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not right away, but the effect is already showing: ...learning to control what kinds of media are encountered on the net is now a part of growing up... Don't underestimate the power of youth. The old ways won't continue unchallenged.

I hope you're right. On the other hand, the 'power of youth' works both ways - it seems like a non-negligible percentage of youth in the West favour more censorship, not less - witness the rise of 'trigger warnings' and 'safe spaces' on university campuses, for example. Their aims might be quite different to those of a semi-authoritarian government, but the censorious impulse is the same.

True. And scary. The goals are completely different (protect the homeland/our entrenched political and monetary positions! and protect me from the world at large!) but the result is very much the same. Censorship makes its way into daily life, and before you know it, it feels "normal."

Re: South Korea provokes teenage smartphone privacy row

#19

This shows how thin is the layer of democracy in the society. "South Korea is a vibrant democracy. It's had free and fair elections since 1987." (so it is 28 years, this is only about 5 years more than nations in Eastern Europe who escaped Soviet Russian dictatorships). "Major-General Park Chung-hee took power in a coup in 1961. He was a strongman who utilised brutal methods - but he also dictated that industries be…

> (this also raises the question why dictators in the north were not able to do the same)

Different strategies. Also, the DPRK made a number of big mistakes which doomed its economy, and much of its economic output is immediately spent on bribes.

> This shows how thin is the layer of democracy in the society.

It's not the only "democratic" East Asian country. I'm skeptical of Japan and Singapore where the same party always wins.

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