It's odd that "low Testosterone levels" (as in "lower T levels compared to ...") is automatically considered to be something bad (by male readers). High T-levels are connected with higher susceptibility to inflammation f.x.
Men in committed, romantic relationships have lower testosterone
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Re: Men in committed, romantic relationships have lower testosterone
#32(Sample of 1). I think my personal experience would seem to indicate so. I've been in a committed relationship for 2 years. But sometimes the wife travels, and I hang out with my single friends, going to bars, flirting with chicks, etc. And I find that I'm a lot more 'affectionate' after this episode. Could it be that I miss the wife so much? I have noticed a difference between when I do the bar scene, and when I don…
I second this ... I actually even encourage my gf to flirt with other men - it keeps you mentally fresh and vital
Re: Men in committed, romantic relationships have lower testosterone
#33The paper's flaw is that it doesn't look at other potential confounders. Here is a simple, but important one: Is there a difference between the amount of sleep that partnered and unpartnered people get? (My experience is lots less sleep when partnered.) It's important because testosterone production depends on pulsatile secretions of other hormones from the pituitary gland that occur during sleep. So, getting less sl…
Less sleep, definitely, and maybe less time working out—relationships take up lots of time, even if you're not with someone who's especially needy. Very easy to let one's workout routine slip to avoid cutting in to other solo activities too badly. Even worse if you add kids to the mix.
Less time hittin' the weights means lower T.
(obviously plenty of couples work out together and still get some exercise in that way, but even then either or both of time and intensity could drop compared with when single)
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Why is it every time a scientific paper is posted to HN the first few comments point out the tired "correlation != causation" or some other catch phrase? It's a peer reviewed paper, by actual researchers and scientists. I'm 99.99% sure they are aware that correlation isn't causation. Furthermore, nowhere in the abstract does it draw any conclusions at all, it merely gives the results. The only people drawing conclusi…
Peer-review is basically worthless, though.
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#35A lot of comments are missing a basic fact of how science works. In science we have a theory, make predictions, then stress test them. This is one study examining a theory which we have various lines of evidence for. It is not supposed to prove the theory - just test one prediction. It is not supposed to be the end of research on this topic. It is not supposed to be final. Criticizing it for any of those things is a…
Good luck with testing a psychology theory.
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#36It's odd that "low Testosterone levels" (as in "lower T levels compared to ...") is automatically considered to be something bad (by male readers). High T-levels are connected with higher susceptibility to inflammation f.x.
Low testosterone is pretty bad... fatigue, mental fog, low sex drive, weak muscles, ED, etc. I have low test and it's not something that I consider normal. The difference between low and high T is night and day. It greatly affects the well being.
Re: Men in committed, romantic relationships have lower testosterone
#37A lot of comments are missing a basic fact of how science works. In science we have a theory, make predictions, then stress test them. This is one study examining a theory which we have various lines of evidence for. It is not supposed to prove the theory - just test one prediction. It is not supposed to be the end of research on this topic. It is not supposed to be final. Criticizing it for any of those things is a…
> Criticizing it for any of those things is a demonstration that you do not understand how science is supposed to function.
Good luck criticizing science when you forbade yourself to criticize pretty much all study shortcomings using those all-encompassing guidelines that all point to a single conclusion, i.e. "Don't criticize me, I'm just a prediction bro".
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is it every time a scientific paper is posted to HN the first few comments point out the tired "correlation != causation" or some other catch phrase? It's a peer reviewed paper, by actual researchers and scientists. I'm 99.99% sure they are aware that correlation isn't causation. Furthermore, nowhere in the abstract does it draw any conclusions at all, it merely gives the results. The only people drawing conclusi…
Peer-review is basically worthless, though.
Do you have any peer reviewed studies to support that statement?
Re: Men in committed, romantic relationships have lower testosterone
#39It's odd that "low Testosterone levels" (as in "lower T levels compared to ...") is automatically considered to be something bad (by male readers). High T-levels are connected with higher susceptibility to inflammation f.x.
Low testosterone is pretty bad... fatigue, mental fog, low sex drive, weak muscles, ED, etc. I have low test and it's not something that I consider normal. The difference between low and high T is night and day. It greatly affects the well being.
so all the husbands in the world have weak muscles and mental fog ... ? :D
that's why I wrote my comment precisely as I did. the article is not about low T levels but comparatively low T levels (comparing to single guys)
Re: Men in committed, romantic relationships have lower testosterone
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Low testosterone is pretty bad... fatigue, mental fog, low sex drive, weak muscles, ED, etc. I have low test and it's not something that I consider normal. The difference between low and high T is night and day. It greatly affects the well being.
so all the husbands in the world have weak muscles and mental fog ... ? :D that's why I wrote my comment precisely as I did. the article is not about low T levels but comparatively low T levels (comparing to single guys)
Nah, I wasn't making that link but I see what you meant now in your post.