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The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

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Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

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I live in Bristol and had never heard of the Bristol Pound until this article. It's hardly giving sterling a run for its money.

You've not seen the signs everywhere saying that they're accepted? Quite a lot of the popular bars/restaurants in the centre and clifton accept them; all of the buses advertise that they accept them; everyone in St. Nick's market proudly claim to accept them.

Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

#22

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You can - at least in theory - convert it back. As I recall, when the scheme started, it offered a 10% discount on Bristol pounds but then would convert back at a 1:1 rate.

wait, so with 900 Sterling you can buy 1000 Bristol pounds, and then you can sell them to get 1000 Sterling pounds?

IIRC you could, but they only did it on the first so many Bristol Pounds sold. So their maximum loss on that arbitrage was only measured in thousands.

Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

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In Northern Ireland there are local notes issued as well (by banks). Looks like Monopoly money tbh, but it is accepted widely.

Pretty sure this is completely incorrect. It's sterling just with a slightly different note design including the issuing bank name. It's accepted anywhere sterling is accepted - the only issue I've ever had is that English businesses may not have seen it before and are worried it's fake. Never had any refuse to accept it though.

Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

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Hayek theorised this in 'The Denationalization of Money'. When government currencies become less stable, less valuable. Private, competing currencies can become a medium of exchange free from that. We're starting to see this as many of the national currencies have been flagging over the years. Zimbabwe is a classic example of this also.

I'd say this is very different. The Bristol Pound is pegged to the Sterling. It's really not about mistrust of the government, but rather an attempt to keep profits local and encourage people to use smaller businesses.

Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

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Have you ever tried using one? Most places are really hostile to them, especially the buses.

Really? I ended up with a couple of notes once, I was a bit worried about using it but the bus driver was just fascinated by them, very happy to see and accept them. They're very pretty, which I think takes the edge off the risk you take in accepting one. I can imagine different reactions, of course! Why would bus drivers specifically be hostile to them out of interest, it seems like it'd be no skin off their nose?

They apparently have to do some paperwork at the end of their shift and deposit the money differently. It probably does vary a lot from person to person and what routes they drive a lot though.

Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

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> Some 800 businesses in the Bristol area now use the community currency > So far, some £1m has been issued in the community currency, according to Mundy, of which about £700,000 is still in circulation. These numbers don't feel very decisive to me. I could totally see another article citing them to show that the Bristol Pound is a failure.

It's a very small fraction of the local economy. There are a fair number of businesses accepting them, especially in the "alternative" areas, but you will not see Bristol Pounds very often. It all depends on your expectations how you will define success and failure.

Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

#29

In Northern Ireland there are local notes issued as well (by banks). Looks like Monopoly money tbh, but it is accepted widely.

Pretty sure this is completely incorrect. It's sterling just with a slightly different note design including the issuing bank name. It's accepted anywhere sterling is accepted - the only issue I've ever had is that English businesses may not have seen it before and are worried it's fake. Never had any refuse to accept it though.

I've had Scottish bank notes refused by a taxi driver in London, and he had a letter from the Bank of England claiming he didn't have to take it (a fact that Wikipedia backs up). Though what he gains from antagonising customers I'm not sure.

Re: The Bristol pound is giving sterling a run for its money

#30

In Northern Ireland there are local notes issued as well (by banks). Looks like Monopoly money tbh, but it is accepted widely.

Pretty sure this is completely incorrect. It's sterling just with a slightly different note design including the issuing bank name. It's accepted anywhere sterling is accepted - the only issue I've ever had is that English businesses may not have seen it before and are worried it's fake. Never had any refuse to accept it though.

It's the same with Scottish money, except English people tend to openly despise it and will often refuse it even when they're perfectly aware that it's legal tender.

They're historical accidents tbh.

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