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Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by my-bullshit-job »

MBCook wrote: post #180
infinitone wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like the great Digg v3 Migration to Reddit happened years ago... its happening again from Reddit to Voat.

If the people leaving are the obnoxious hate monger, bandwagoners, and other general trolls that's fine with me. If Reddit wants to get some of the amazingly creepy stuff under control, I'm all for it.

>If Reddit wants to get some of the amazingly creepy stuff under control, I'm all for it.

But they're not actually doing that, because they're leaving plenty of subreddits that are arguably much worse.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by themeekforgotpw »

The West is so inconsistent. It will cheer as Charlie Hebdo mocks the prophet of a quarter of the living people on Earth.

"Free speech!"

But then it will close down forums where some people say mean things about some other people.

"Propriety!" "It's 'curated' or 'managed', not censored!"

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by philwelch »

IndianAstronaut wrote: post #244
philwelch wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Previous Reddit CEO's have made lots of statements about wanting the site to allow relatively free expression, aside from things like doxxing and pedophilia. Ellen Pao has instead talked about turning Reddit into a "safe space", which is a common euphemism for eliminating dissenting viewpoints. FPH in and of itself isn't the most defensible or tasteful subreddit, but they're going to start by banning the least defens…

Oddly, theh still kept subreddits from reddit's "nigger network" in place. r/greatapes and r/coontown

Give them time. Neither of those subreddits reach /r/all, but FPH did.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by s73v3r »

fierycatnet wrote: post #100

This is like dream come true for voat dot co. I highly doubt there is going to be mass migration like it was with Digg but Voat is going to get quite a few users in the near future for what it's worth. In any case, Reddit has become a new mainstream site full of propaganda, censorship, shadowbanning, hand-picked news, etc. I've noticed a sharp decline in the last year or so. It's not even their new policy, it just fe…

Have fun with your mysoginistic, racist, hateful community.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by [deleted] »

baby wrote: post #211
spodek wrote: post #76

HN users consistently imply this place has better comments than Reddit. "Reddit is a cesspool." "Can we please not bring this to HN as well." etc. I've never had a problem avoiding content I didn't like there. Meanwhile I saw great discussions at various times. Here, on the other hand, I've nearly stopped reading. Besides the unjustified elitism, constantly I'd post on a thread here only to see it disappear with no e…

> constantly I'd post on a thread here only to see it disappear with no explanation. We surely don't have the same experience with reddit then, most big subreddits have a huge amount of rules and posting to them will just cause a bot/moderator to remove your thread and ask you to make changes

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Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by bjterry »

obstinate wrote: post #179
infinitone wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like the great Digg v3 Migration to Reddit happened years ago... its happening again from Reddit to Voat.

I think you mean "I hope it will happen", because there is no evidence that it is actually happening.

I had never heard of voat.co until just now, but their site appears to be down, which is some evidence that they probably are receiving a ton of traffic from somewhere.

Edit: For the record, I don't think voat.co will become more popular than reddit in the way reddit became more popular than digg. The subreddit system is much more resilient than digg's system was. As others have said, I barely noticed that this was occurring.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by mfukar »

Goronmon wrote: post #107
rcfox wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's moderation. "Censorship" implies suppressing free speech, which this is not. It's simply removing undesirable content from a privately-owned website.

Isn't it both? I don't see how moderation (in the form of removing/editing content) isn't censorship.

Let me clear it up for you:

Say you post an article about the current state of socioeconomic affairs in the EU in /r/askscience. Your submission will be deleted, because /r/askscience's subject is not to host such articles. There is room elsewhere in Reddit for such an article.

This is an example of moderation.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by duskwuff »

PopeOfNope wrote: post #80
fleitz wrote: post #44

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You've got to give Christopher Poole credit, he was never dumb enough to try to police 4chan. This is as laughable as trying to get rid of trolling on IRC.

Yes, he was. When GamerGate happened, that's exactly what he attempted to do. He replaced most of the mods on the site within a very short amount of time and the heavy handed policing started. Most of 4chan left in response. Many alternative chan sites were started, including 8ch.net.

8chan was created in October 2013 in response to a group that didn't become active until late 2014? Something doesn't add up here.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by andrewflnr »

themeekforgotpw wrote: post #262

The West is so inconsistent. It will cheer as Charlie Hebdo mocks the prophet of a quarter of the living people on Earth. "Free speech!" But then it will close down forums where some people say mean things about some other people. "Propriety!" "It's 'curated' or 'managed', not censored!"

It's almost as if The West isn't a monoculture, and contains people who disagree with each other.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by smsm42 »

spodek wrote: post #76

HN users consistently imply this place has better comments than Reddit. "Reddit is a cesspool." "Can we please not bring this to HN as well." etc. I've never had a problem avoiding content I didn't like there. Meanwhile I saw great discussions at various times. Here, on the other hand, I've nearly stopped reading. Besides the unjustified elitism, constantly I'd post on a thread here only to see it disappear with no e…

> HN users consistently imply this place has better comments than Reddit

That isn't a big surprise, is it? If they thought otherwise, they'd be commenting on Reddit about how HN sucks :)

Reddit and HN have different audiences. I tried both and found HN suits me much better. If it's not your cup of tea, nothing wrong with that too.

Yes, HN story ranking is arcane and I wish there were better tools to track content I like. But it also has a lot of insightful people and great discussions while trying not to devolve into circus.

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