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Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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> On one hand I'm against censorship, I feel like censorship isn't the right word for this but I can't think of a better one.

It's moderation. "Censorship" implies suppressing free speech, which this is not. It's simply removing undesirable content from a privately-owned website.

Moderation doesn't seem right either, though: the people who wanted to be part of those (toxic, terrible) communities had chosen to go there, and the only times they popped up in other communities was people linking to them as a sign of how terrible the people there are (counterproductive as a strategy).

Moderation implies curating an intermingling of user-generated comments so as to provide a super experience for the people reading those comments. There was no intermingling here.

I think a large part of the anger is that people on Reddit tend to recognize it's a patchwork of communities, each with distinct borders you can't cross accidentally, and they like it that way. In contrast, this decision is motivated by a desire to expand Reddit's appeal to new users and as an advertising platform, both of which rely on it having a good reputation to the outside world.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand I'm against censorship, on the other I'm against internet bullying. /r/FatPeopleHate was engaging in both. In the end reddit is a private site that can do what it wants. Wikipedia removes things all the time and sites like 4chan remove all sorts of extremely offensive material. I'm glad the mods of the hate oriented subreddits have been shadow banned, I actually think…

Just like the great Digg v3 Migration to Reddit happened years ago... its happening again from Reddit to Voat.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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This article dramatically understates the magnitude of the shitstorm that is currently unfolding. Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ if you feel like seeing all the ugliness. (And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.) I don't fault the Reddi…

This makes me want to leave Reddit alone.

Why? Hackernews is way more heavily moderated and would never tolerate anything like those subreddits for a minute.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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This article dramatically understates the magnitude of the shitstorm that is currently unfolding. Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ if you feel like seeing all the ugliness. (And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.) I don't fault the Reddi…

The front page is pretty worrying. The situation seems almost identical to when Reddit axed r/jailbait: one of their more embarrassing communities started to get too much attention, its users were increasingly behaving in a way that was damaging Reddit, and Reddit decided to kill it (ostensibly for the greater good of the site). But even though that pissed plenty of people off... I don't recall the front page being t…

/r/all is not the front page. Reddit is at a scale at which this will probably blow over, likely for a better Reddit. Other teacup storms like the removal of /r/jailbait, their handling of 'the fappening' and gamergate don't seem have affected reddit much at all. It seems almost more like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSdRMSG_k

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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In what sense is it ironic? Reddit is a private corporation unaffiliated with the United States Government.

I was wrong, it's not ironic at all. Censoring a post criticizing censorship is perfectly consistent. Though not entirely consistent with their statement that "we do protect the right of people to express their views".

You will doubtless learn, in your travels, that not every corporation will die on the hill staying true to the maximal interpretation of a throwaway sentence posted on their free service.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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The front page is pretty worrying. The situation seems almost identical to when Reddit axed r/jailbait: one of their more embarrassing communities started to get too much attention, its users were increasingly behaving in a way that was damaging Reddit, and Reddit decided to kill it (ostensibly for the greater good of the site). But even though that pissed plenty of people off... I don't recall the front page being t…

Reddit's userbase seems to feel especially threatened by Ellen Pao, and it's hard for me to believe that the difference is anything rational. Well, she has basically said that she wants to start cleaning up the "objectionable" sides of reddit. Plus, there is a strong sentiment that content that's critical of her (even the less hateful stuff) has been removed often in the past.

I've seen plenty of these claims but far less in the way of actual removed content. My sense is that this is largely a myth used to stir up outrage.

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Feminism too.

I'm pretty sure the radical feminist movement is being curated by Russian trolls to create social unrest.

Last week I would have called you a crazy conspiracy theorist. This was in the new York times... http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.htm...

Even then I feel like it has to be a hoax

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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This marks the beginning of the end of Reddit. It's been a long time coming and Reddit has become a huge promotional platform for pseudo user generated content submitted by shills and celebrities. A lot of people are migrating to Voat. http://voat.co

This. I was one from Digg to come to Reddit, but since then the quality of posts has gone to shit. Comments worse than Youtube sometimes.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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This article dramatically understates the magnitude of the shitstorm that is currently unfolding. Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ if you feel like seeing all the ugliness. (And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.) I don't fault the Reddi…

I think that's the end of my Reddit use then, the toxicity in a few fringe subreddits has spread into full blown septicemia. That's really sad - I don't think there's many communities like /r/assistance and even /r/buildapc around.

Just cut your ties with all the main ones and keep around the few you like, I did that ages ago and while my front page is a lot slower it I still get good content and decent people, and I honestly had no idea this stuff was going on until I went on hacker news, so that's nice.
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