Indian Programmer Exposes Code Injection, Gets a Cease and Desist from Injectors • Hacker News Board

Re: Indian Programmer Exposes Code Injection, Gets a Cease and Desist from Injectors

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Post by madez » Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 3:56 AM UTC

rroriz wrote: post #70

madez wrote: post #15

This happens in Brazil, too. It is outrageous but the public in Brazil is horribly unenducated and they couldn't care less.

I'm from Brazil. Which carrier do you use that has this same behaviour? I really want to check what they are doing...

I had a sim card from VIVO and they regularly used DNS-hijacking to show me captive portals which tried to convince to pay for more traffic. One thing at least as annoying as that is that Firefox caches that site so that when I close the portal and try to reaccess the original website Firefox shows me again the captive portal.

Re: Indian Programmer Exposes Code Injection, Gets a Cease and Desist from Injectors

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Post by jamra » Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 5:58 AM UTC

shkkmo wrote: post #35

jamra wrote: post #3

He got a cease and desist letter from the copyright holders, not the injectors. I believe his ISP was injecting.

Why is this downvoted? The statement appears to be correct based on the article linked. >an Indian Airtel customer, Thejesh GN, discovered that the carrier had begun using Flash Networks Layer8 “monetization” (read “ad injection”) solutions. >However, like so many ridiculous cease and desist letters, that hasn’t stopped Flash Networks lawyer Ameet Metha at Solicis Lex from trying to scare Thejesh >Airtel, for their p…

I think we should do a research project on comments like mine that get initially downvoted, but then receive statements like yours clarifying the authenticity of the original comment. I have more upvotes on this comment than on most of my other comments.

Re: Indian Programmer Exposes Code Injection, Gets a Cease and Desist from Injectors

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Post by belorn » Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 10:59 AM UTC

TheDong wrote: post #43

webkike wrote: post #2

I wonder, if I write some HTML/JS code and deny the write to modify, can I send Flash a cease and desist for violation?

You don't have to do that; there are plenty of webpages with GPL'd html and injecting such code into that html without also providing the code under GPL on request to any user is a violation of the GPL. I'm curious if the above copyright infringement would stand in court or not... Copyright infringement normally does need intent and I'm not sure if this is really intent or not.

Intent for specific infringements has so far not been a requirement when torrent sites has been taken down. It is enough that they simply causes infringement in the abstract to be found guilty of assisting in copyright infringement.

The problem with injecting code into html is that it "adapts" the work, and adaptations requires copyright permission.

Re: Indian Programmer Exposes Code Injection, Gets a Cease and Desist from Injectors

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Post by belorn » Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:07 AM UTC

wvenable wrote: post #98

derefr wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Just because", no. But: 1. The server has no access restrictions for the Javascript URL, presumably. So, if you trust the server's configuration to match the owner's intent, then the owner was saying "this page is intended for public consumption." Which is to say, importantly, not only for their customers to view in exchange for their subscription fees (which would put the ad-injector script under license of whateve…

> The server has no access restrictions for the Javascript URL, presumably. So, if you trust the server's configuration to match the owner's intent, then the owner was saying "this page is intended for public consumption." That argument did not help weev with AT&T. If they are distributing the code, they are allowed to do that as the copyright owner. That's why it's called copyright. But that doesn't grant anyone els…

It also didn't help in a famous piracy case in Sweden where people shared paid web streamed sports that didn't have any access restrictions. Since the cable company intended for the web pages to be access only by paying customers, sharing them was seen as infringing copyright.

Re: Indian Programmer Exposes Code Injection, Gets a Cease and Desist from Injectors

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Post by shkkmo » Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 10:53 PM UTC

jamra wrote: post #122

shkkmo wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this downvoted? The statement appears to be correct based on the article linked. >an Indian Airtel customer, Thejesh GN, discovered that the carrier had begun using Flash Networks Layer8 “monetization” (read “ad injection”) solutions. >However, like so many ridiculous cease and desist letters, that hasn’t stopped Flash Networks lawyer Ameet Metha at Solicis Lex from trying to scare Thejesh >Airtel, for their p…

I think we should do a research project on comments like mine that get initially downvoted, but then receive statements like yours clarifying the authenticity of the original comment. I have more upvotes on this comment than on most of my other comments.

Funnily enough, my clarification got 1 up vote...