Goodbye Sweden
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Re: Goodbye Sweden
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
"The once homogenous population has been forever altered by a rapid and massive addition of people from vastly different cultures and value-systems. 26,8% of the population is now foreign-born or with at least one foreign-born parent, and the national census bureau estimates that some 150 000 per year will arrive to the country of just 9,8 million residents. There simply is no possible way to absorb and assimilate su…
People here in Scandinavia are very worried because their cozy little village of a region is being infused with massively different cultures. Can't really blame them, and to be sure crime and social costs are higher as a result of immigration. That said, there is every reason to believe that these effects will diminish over time as immigrants start to integrate, even some beneficial effects are already showing. The p…
If anything it seems anti-correlated with presence of real live immigrants. The largest group of immigrants to Denmark go to Copenhagen. But Copenhagen isn't where you find the strongest anti-immigrant sentiment, as you'd expect if anti-immigrant sentiment were caused by contact with immigrants. Such sentiment isn't absent, but Copenhageners are comparatively okay with immigration and the majority take moderate views, focused on practical issues like programs to improve integration. The strongest worries and the more "militant" style of anti-immigrant politics comes from rural and small-town areas which do not really see large-scale immigration.
I believe this is also the case in a number of other European countries, for example in Austria and Switzerland, where immigrants go mainly to the cities, but anti-immigrant sentiment is concentrated in the rural areas and small towns. Some of this probably has nothing to do with immigration per se but is a result of preexisting cultural splits between cosmopolitan, liberally oriented cities, and more conservative countrysides (a 19th-century sort of romantic nationalism is very strong in rural Scandinavia).
Re: Goodbye Sweden
#43the xenophobia in this rant basically amounts to "sweden for swedes", but it's more striking when you read this on the About page: Please note that I enforce a zero-tolerance policy towards racism, violence and extremist comments. Judging other people by the color of their skin is manifestly absurd. So please don’t submit such comments here Edit: removed some sarcasm
What is "sweden for swedes" to you? It sounds very much like the struggle of many other ethnic groups in the world. Kurdistan for Kurds, Israel for Jews, etc.
Too many immigrants, they are taking our jobs/benefits, we're letting the jihadis in, and so forth?
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#44According to the government, the total population of Singapore is 5.26M. Out of this, 3.27M are citizens, with 540K Permanent Residents and 1.46M non-residents. In other words, about 2M or 38% of the population were not born in Singapore.[1] Note that this is a conservative estimate since an immigrant can become a Singapore Citizen after 2 years as a Permanent Resident.
And yes, obviously there is great concern because a lot of foreigners do not assimilate well either.[2]
[1] http://population.sg/resources/population-composition/ [2] http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/rapid-growth-singapor...
Re: Goodbye Sweden
#45Hyperbole. Some of the concerns are quite real but please don't mistake this for an accurate or balanced statement.
Totally agree. This is essentially a political rant about the politics of Sweden and as such pretty exaggarating. I don't quite understand why it's trending on HN.
Eventually enough people will flag it or start commenting that it'll drop anyway (a mistake in the algorithm if you ask me, as it makes flags 'super-downvotes') but in the mean time...
Re: Goodbye Sweden
#46the xenophobia in this rant basically amounts to "sweden for swedes", but it's more striking when you read this on the About page: Please note that I enforce a zero-tolerance policy towards racism, violence and extremist comments. Judging other people by the color of their skin is manifestly absurd. So please don’t submit such comments here Edit: removed some sarcasm
Where is he "judging people by the color of their skin"? Exactly what is xenophobic in this post?
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#47As a Singaporean, I laugh at these low immigration numbers. 150K per year out of 9.8 million residents, that's a drop in the ocean. According to the government, the total population of Singapore is 5.26M. Out of this, 3.27M are citizens, with 540K Permanent Residents and 1.46M non-residents. In other words, about 2M or 38% of the population were not born in Singapore.[1] Note that this is a conservative estimate sinc…
Re: Goodbye Sweden
#48Nationalism, xenophobia, and even fascism seems to be on the rise in Sweden - as it is in the rest of Europe. (I'm basing this solely on media coverage and personal observation.) Posts like this show a poor attempt, with entirely subjective observations, to justify some of these attitudes. What's particularly scary is how the poster tries to disguise his views with a belief in socialist politics.
Any time anyone dares to complain about the influence of ultra-reactionary immigrants on the quality and safety of public life, they are immediately branded "nationalist", "xenophobic" or "fascist".
Many of us, like myself, are from immigrant backgrounds. There is a world of difference between how our predecessors treated the country they immigrated to and what the recent waves of reactionary Islamists are doing.
People who aggressively and violently oppose the liberal values of our nations are not immigrants, they are invaders. And people of all races and political believes are getting tired of this shit.
Stop blaming the victims. We are not the aggressors, we are not the homophobic, antisemitic, anti-women criminal trash that terrorises public life.
We were once safe and progressive nations, and wanting to take that back does not make us fascist.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where is he "judging people by the color of their skin"? Exactly what is xenophobic in this post?
Did you miss these lines? "Jihadist Trojan horses are flowing through the porous border along with the tens of thousands ID-less refugees. But what makes me the most pessimistic about Sweden’s future is how the social fabric itself has been undermined." If the "social fabric" of a country amounts to it's prior ethnic homogeneity, then decrying it's unraveling amounts to being scared of people coming from the outside.…
It is true that 9 out of 10 that applies for Asylum in Sweden have no ID.
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#50As a Singaporean, I laugh at these low immigration numbers. 150K per year out of 9.8 million residents, that's a drop in the ocean. According to the government, the total population of Singapore is 5.26M. Out of this, 3.27M are citizens, with 540K Permanent Residents and 1.46M non-residents. In other words, about 2M or 38% of the population were not born in Singapore.[1] Note that this is a conservative estimate sinc…
Additionally, my understanding of Singapore's immigration laws (I looked into migrating there myself a few years ago) is that it's difficult to do so for anything other than economic reasons - you have to prove you have a job offer or can contribute substantially to Singapore's economy.