"Over the air updates" via wi-fi? For an oven... I'm feeling a little luddite-y.
June Intelligent Oven
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Re: June Intelligent Oven
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still seems like overkill, though. Just like the "beverage identification" in Vessyl, it presumably adds a reasonable amount to the cost of the thing (as well as another breakable component) when selecting "A chicken leg" in an app or something would be sufficient.
The camera also appears to be used to help determine when the food is done, to allow the oven to do things like turn itself up for the last 15 minutes to crisp the exterior. And that's the important part. Nobody's going to pay $1500 for something that makes cooking easier. They'll appreciate it, but they won't pay for it. Lot's of people will pay $1500 for a gadget that makes cooking better.
$1500 is a lot for an oven that can't cook very much food. It looks like it would serve two people, max? And it can only cook one thing at a time so wave goodbye to roasting veggies while the meat cooks.
People who are passionate about cooking tend to do it for more people than just themselves.
Re: June Intelligent Oven
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Just like the "beverage identification" in Vessyl, it presumably adds a reasonable amount to the cost of the thing (as well as another breakable component) when selecting "A chicken leg" in an app or something would be sufficient. Selecting common recipes from the console is a fairly common feature even in inexpensive microwaves and toaster ovens. Moving that to a phone app isn't really much of a comparative sellin…
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> Obviously none of us know the price breakdown but it adds to a cost that will total $3000 for non pre-orders. Even if it's a very useful feature, that much money for an oven that is too small to cook a meal for a family ensures it will not reach a mass market.
The first popular countertop microwave oven was sold in 1967 at a price that is equivalent to about $3,500 now. New tech in appliances is often very expensive; the early adopters (as in many fields) are people that aren't very price sensitive if there are new features that aren't available elsewhere.
Anyway, a countertop oven that can handle up to 11"x16" baking dishes isn't too small to cook a family meal, so even if your premise was correct, its not really applicable to the device in question.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
The camera also appears to be used to help determine when the food is done, to allow the oven to do things like turn itself up for the last 15 minutes to crisp the exterior. And that's the important part. Nobody's going to pay $1500 for something that makes cooking easier. They'll appreciate it, but they won't pay for it. Lot's of people will pay $1500 for a gadget that makes cooking better.
$1500 is a lot for an oven that can't cook very much food. It looks like it would serve two people, max? And it can only cook one thing at a time so wave goodbye to roasting veggies while the meat cooks. People who are passionate about cooking tend to do it for more people than just themselves.
It fits a 12 pound turkey. That's a small turkey, but it'll feed a lot more than 2 people.
Re: June Intelligent Oven
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Any idea why an oven needs an "NVIDIA Tegra K1 with 2.3 GHz quad-core processor and 192 CUDA GPU cores"? Obviously, to power the food identification, analysis, and cooking program recommendation system that makes it a "Smart Oven".
Still seems like overkill, though. Just like the "beverage identification" in Vessyl, it presumably adds a reasonable amount to the cost of the thing (as well as another breakable component) when selecting "A chicken leg" in an app or something would be sufficient.
Why not 'selecting a chicken leg' on the screen? Why does everything have to be an app these days?
Re: June Intelligent Oven
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
The camera also appears to be used to help determine when the food is done, to allow the oven to do things like turn itself up for the last 15 minutes to crisp the exterior. And that's the important part. Nobody's going to pay $1500 for something that makes cooking easier. They'll appreciate it, but they won't pay for it. Lot's of people will pay $1500 for a gadget that makes cooking better.
$1500 is a lot for an oven that can't cook very much food. It looks like it would serve two people, max? And it can only cook one thing at a time so wave goodbye to roasting veggies while the meat cooks. People who are passionate about cooking tend to do it for more people than just themselves.
> $1500 is a lot for an oven that can't cook very much food. It looks like it would serve two people, max?
It handles baking dishes up to 11"x16".
Most family size single-baking-dish recipes are sized for a 9"x13" baking dish.
> And it can only cook one thing at a time so wave goodbye to roasting veggies while the meat cooks.
While I suppose for some people a countertop oven might replace a full-size oven, most of the target early-adopter market for expensive kitchen gadgets is going to have a decent size kitchen with a full-size oven as well as any countertop oven; the features this has might reverse the traditional "large oven is primary, countertop is secondary" arrangement in those households, but I don't think most people in the early adopter market is going to be using this as their sole oven (though, I suppose, if you were particularly price-insensitive, especially if you already had a cooktop separate from a large oven, getting two of these for a dual-oven setup would be more space efficient than most dual-oven setups.)
Re: June Intelligent Oven
#47Any idea why an oven needs an "NVIDIA Tegra K1 with 2.3 GHz quad-core processor and 192 CUDA GPU cores"? Seems like overkill?
Perhaps that is the heating element
Re: June Intelligent Oven
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
$1500 is a lot for an oven that can't cook very much food. It looks like it would serve two people, max? And it can only cook one thing at a time so wave goodbye to roasting veggies while the meat cooks. People who are passionate about cooking tend to do it for more people than just themselves.
It fits a 12 pound turkey. That's a small turkey, but it'll feed a lot more than 2 people.
No one cooks turkey except on Thanksgiving, so that's an odd example to choose.
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#49There's a market developing here within the "temperature controlled smart cooking" world, with the number of different engineering approaches growing rapidly. Y Combinator alone has funded three companies in this space already!
Pantelligent (YC W13) - $199 - https://www.pantelligent.com/ - smart frying pan plus smartphone app. Recipes are smart software & give you instructions to adjust on the fly to provide perfect results every time. Works for any dish you can cook in a frying pan (steak, salmon, eggs, veggies, ...).
Cinder (YC W15) - $499 - https://cindercooks.com/ - electric grill style countertop appliance with smart recipes on smartphone.
Nomiku (YC W15) - $249 / $199 pre-order - http://www.nomiku.com/ - sous-vide water bath immersion circulator
June Oven - $2995 / $1495 pre-order - https://juneoven.com/ - countertop electric oven style
Consumers have a wide range of options and that's pretty amazing, because fundamentally, the technology (temperature controlled cooking) works great and it's something I believe a lot of people are going to want to have in their home. It's like "process control 101" -- time and temperature -- finally made it to the kitchen.
(Disclosure: I'm an engineer & co-founder of Pantelligent. Words can not convey just how delicious a Pantelligent-cooked salmon or steak is. Paul Graham said, "This pan made the best salmon I've ever cooked. In fact, better than I've had in almost any restaurant." If you're skeptical, check out some of our hands-on reviews; we were recently on NBC TODAY Show, CBS This Morning, and Popular Science's "Top 10 Inventions of 2015". And if you're still skeptical and live in the SF Bay Area, email visit @ pantelligent.com and we'll see if we can schedule a visit to our Sunnyvale warehouse so you can try it out for yourself!)
Re: June Intelligent Oven
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It fits a 12 pound turkey. That's a small turkey, but it'll feed a lot more than 2 people.
No one cooks turkey except on Thanksgiving, so that's an odd example to choose.
A turkey is the biggest thing most people ever put in their ovens, so it's often used for oven size comparisons.