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Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by camillomiller »

the_ancient wrote: post #246
camillomiller wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah how dare they develop a nice and useful tool, right?

Apparently you and everyone else in this thread do not know the History of git git is a tool developed specifically for Linux Kernel Development, GIT would not exist with out linux.. Linus Torvalds created git for linux..... So releasing any tool for git that does not support linux, IMO is betraying the history and foundation of git.

You see, I think this is exactly the kind of entitled attitude that pushes away people from Linux. People don't give a damn about the intricacies and history of their tools, they care about getting a good work done in the less stressful way.

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by quadrangle »

wsc981 wrote: post #25
quadrangle wrote: post #12

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…and not release under a free/open license for GNU/Linux. Yeah, right. That stinks. No joke. Proprietary software for proprietary OS's ought to not exist.

I hope you're joking or being sarcastic.

Is "no joke" inadequate to tell you that I'm not joking?

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by lectrick »

aagha wrote: post #59

Awesome. Now 13% of people that would like to use it can [0]. Cool idea. Just wish it wasn't tied to Mac. 0 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_system...

The "creator class", i.e. many devs, and probably most open-source devs, are on an OS X laptop these days.

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by quadrangle »

nkohari wrote: post #41
quadrangle wrote: post #10

Git is a registered trademark, I don't see notice of permission… maybe they didn't ask and might not have it?

IANAL, but they almost certainly don't need permission. Typically you just need a message that says X is a registered trademark of Y. GitUp is unaffiliated with Y . Also, it's entertaining to me that in one comment you say that closed-source proprietary software is bad, and in another comment you're concerned about whether they follow trademark law. I understand that it's not a direct comparison and open source softw…

Talking about "IP" law as one thing is useless. There's certainly no real-world validity to the idea that ideas are property, but even if we accept the legal concept of it…

Copyright is a restriction that mostly censors the sharing and building of ideas freely. It should be abolished. But it's currently used to deal with plagiarism and to support copyleft licenses. We should have stronger legal protects for attribution, against false endorsement claims, and support technology freedom with mandates for source release for published works and prohibition of DRM.

Patents are just bullshit. We should abolish patent law and just have better social systems for grants and funding for research (although it might already be true that almost all useful patentable inventions are built on socially-funded research already).

Trademark is a consumer protection. It is absolutely essential. It protects people in the market to know that they are dealing with the same legitimate entity when they see the trademark in use. There are cases of abuse or of it being overly strong, but trademark is totally important and basically positive.

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by lectrick »

The entire philosophy of this goes against Git.

Editing history (including comments) without a new commit is basically a revert to mutable history, which means shared git history suddenly becomes a problem.

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by lectrick »

swisspol wrote: post #11
graffitici wrote: post #7

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I agree. If you've already pushed to other repos with the old commit message, this can cause issues. The only time I actually change the commit message is when I'm sure that nobody else has seen it. I'm not even sure what happens when you change the local commit message, and push it again. Does it just get updated in the remote repo?

You get the usual Git error "unable to fast-forward" which means in plain English that what's on the remote repo doesn't match what you have locally anymore, so you can't push, unless you force. In such cases, GitUp just prompts you if you want to force push. If you decide to force push, then your updated commit message is on the remote repo as well. This is completely safe if this is your private repo, or you are pu…

Changing git history is simply and utterly wrong unless you are the sole developer, for the reasons you already understand.

I would even go so far as to say that even with a sole developer, this shouldn't be part of a workflow, as 1 developer can become 2 fairly easily.

I think you need to mention this in your homepage/video/marketing somewhere.

You're basically making it easier to mutate Git history, with all the concurrency issues that that creates. The reason why changing history in Git is hard, is because it should be hard.

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by quadrangle »

res0nat0r wrote: post #92
djur wrote: post #88

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There's nothing wrong with charging money for a product. You can charge money for a product without it being proprietary software.

There also is nothing wrong with proprietary software. Don't run it, or purchase it if you have some moral disagreement with it, but many people don't and are perfectly happy to pay money for it.

There's absolutely things wrong with proprietary software. It leaves software users in the position of having technology that they cannot control freely. See, e.g. the arguments from GM and John Deere that you do not have permission to modify your own car or tractor. Or countless other examples.

And basically zero of the people who pay for proprietary software are saying "I'm so glad this is proprietary". They pay because the package of what they get in utility is worthwhile and outweighs any concern about the proprietary nature of the software.

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by minnsey »

dcre wrote: post #72

I'm a SourceTree user on Mac. Just tried GitUp out for an hour. Here are the problems I have with SourceTree: * Slow as hell * No/bad keyboard shorts, and setting up custom ones is annoying and buggy * Uses tons of memory — it eventually gets up to 1 GB after running for a day or two, and my repos are not very big. My thoughts on GitUp: * Crazy fast (almost disarmingly so – I think it needs more visual confirmation w…

Hi,

Sorry to hear about your issues with SourceTree, but thanks for highlighting them.

We are aware of performance issues for a number of users. To be fair it is taking us longer than we would like but, addressing these issues is our priority and we're working on it.

If you haven't already consider raising an issue, at https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/SRCTREE for OSX or https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/SRCTREEWIN for Windows, with info about your environment.

Thanks

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by reitanqild »

thesmok wrote: post #231
reitanqild wrote: post #186

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Thats the "weird" thing about Mac users: noticing that things "doesn't feel right" while completely missing that somebody has mangled their keyboard (where is home/end? pg up/pg dn? Waht are these extra arrow up left and arrow down right thingies on my keyboard that even long time Mac users cannot explain? (Feel free to explain it and I'll give you an upvote tomorrow morning if I remember : ) why is fn/ctrl switched…

pg up/pg dn is Fn+Up/Dn. Home/End is Fn+Left/Right.

Late but does that now work in all applications?

3years ago this worked in some applications, in others you had to use the old ctrl-a/ctrl-e (which couldn't be combined with shift) or cmd or control-left/right/up/down.

Can't remember the details anymore, but I think I figured I needed at least three different combos for home/end back then.

Re: GitUp makes Git painless

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Post by reitanqild »

X-Istence wrote: post #241
reitanqild wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats the "weird" thing about Mac users: noticing that things "doesn't feel right" while completely missing that somebody has mangled their keyboard (where is home/end? pg up/pg dn? Waht are these extra arrow up left and arrow down right thingies on my keyboard that even long time Mac users cannot explain? (Feel free to explain it and I'll give you an upvote tomorrow morning if I remember : ) why is fn/ctrl switched…

I've got a full sized keyboard, I've got an home/end, a page up/page down, and I am wondering what you mean with extra arrow up left, and arrow down right? Are you referring to the arrows that signify home/end/page up/page down on the older full size keyboards? On the laptop keyboard the Fn key is the outer key, followed by ctrl, then alt/option and then command on my full size keyboard it is placed above the delete…

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB110LL/B/apple-keyboard-w...

http://superuser.com/questions/46452/weird-symbols-for-key-c...

Seems you are right about home and end having gotten text descriptions.

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