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“Thank You” in Hindi and English Mean Very Different Things

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Re: “Thank You” in Hindi and English Mean Very Different Things

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This is partly in line with my experiences. It's more subtle than it comes across in the article. I've thanked servers, taxi drivers, and others, but don't recall thanking a bus driver. I have thanked my parents and they've never had issues. However, in general thanking elders is considered bad form, but asking them or appreciating their blessing isn't. Is that very different?

Interesting. It's quite common in Australia to thank the bus drivers.

Yeah it might just be a habit, but I say thank-you to heaps of 'service' workers - just a simple 'Thanks mate' when I get off the bus, or get my coffee, etc. Why wouldn't you? I mean, I know it's their job, but you can still be polite about it.

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Perhaps he doesn't understand that "thank you" is usually meant as a simple, polite acknowledgement. A heartfelt expression of gratitude in English is said not with a stock phrase, but by stopping, looking at the person, and explaining your gratitude to them.

He is confusing our stock phrase with something that is an entirely different concept.

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I live in the UK, and whenever I travel back to Bulgaria, I get told off for saying "sorry" and "thank you" all the time. In Bulgarian, the word for "thank you" is "благодаря" ("blagodarya") but people often fall back to a simple "мерси" ("merci" - the French word, yes) for transactional thank-yous. I'm not really sure whether that's because "благодаря" is reserved for sincere, heartfelt thanksgiving or because the w…

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There's a similar problem with my native language[1] and "sorry". The standard word, samaavenna literally means "forgive me". As a former British Colony (Sri Lanka) most of us have got used to the English words -- even non-English speakers will automatically say "sorry" or "thank you". But once "thank you" is said, most people awkwardly respond with "ah", because there's no phrase in the language for "you're welcome"…

>But once "thank you" is said, most people awkwardly respond with "ah", because there's no phrase in the language for "you're welcome".

In London I've noticed that instead of saying, "you're welcome" people prefer to say "no worries", which is far more casual. I don't know why that phrase started to be used but if I had to give a guess I'd say that it was out of awkwardness because there wasn't a less formal/personal response to use.

Re: “Thank You” in Hindi and English Mean Very Different Things

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Perhaps he doesn't understand that "thank you" is usually meant as a simple, polite acknowledgement. A heartfelt expression of gratitude in English is said not with a stock phrase, but by stopping, looking at the person, and explaining your gratitude to them. He is confusing our stock phrase with something that is an entirely different concept.

If I may extend my own post for a moment, this is a common problem of trying to translate words & phrases directly.

For example, most people know that "Arigato" is Japanese for "Thank you". Except that's really wrong. Arigato is inappropriate in most cases, and "Sumasen" or variations should be used. But if you tried to translate them via the dictionary, you'd be quite confused as arigato comes from "thank" and su(mi)masen from "to finish".

You can't just say "This equals this" when you work in another language or culture. You have to learn the native meaning itself.

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There's a similar problem with my native language[1] and "sorry". The standard word, samaavenna literally means "forgive me". As a former British Colony (Sri Lanka) most of us have got used to the English words -- even non-English speakers will automatically say "sorry" or "thank you". But once "thank you" is said, most people awkwardly respond with "ah", because there's no phrase in the language for "you're welcome"…

>But once "thank you" is said, most people awkwardly respond with "ah", because there's no phrase in the language for "you're welcome". In London I've noticed that instead of saying, "you're welcome" people prefer to say "no worries", which is far more casual. I don't know why that phrase started to be used but if I had to give a guess I'd say that it was out of awkwardness because there wasn't a less formal/personal…

I've heard Australians say "no worries" (often with a trailing "mate") a lot. I always thought it originated there.

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I live in the UK, and whenever I travel back to Bulgaria, I get told off for saying "sorry" and "thank you" all the time. In Bulgarian, the word for "thank you" is "благодаря" ("blagodarya") but people often fall back to a simple "мерси" ("merci" - the French word, yes) for transactional thank-yous. I'm not really sure whether that's because "благодаря" is reserved for sincere, heartfelt thanksgiving or because the w…

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He wasn't saying merci is yes in french, he was saying that it is indeed the french word merci they use in Bulgaria.

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I live in the UK, and whenever I travel back to Bulgaria, I get told off for saying "sorry" and "thank you" all the time. In Bulgarian, the word for "thank you" is "благодаря" ("blagodarya") but people often fall back to a simple "мерси" ("merci" - the French word, yes) for transactional thank-yous. I'm not really sure whether that's because "благодаря" is reserved for sincere, heartfelt thanksgiving or because the w…

> ("merci" - the French word, yes)

Do you know why?

Re: “Thank You” in Hindi and English Mean Very Different Things

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As an American, I've sometimes been bothered by the use of thank you. It is fine as a pleasantry at a restaurant. But it always felt odd coming from a boss or from the company CEO. I think to myself, "I didn't do this piece of work as a favor to you, I didn't because you are paying me and you told me to do it." It is interesting to read that this view is more common in other cultures. I also dislike putting "thank yo…

Thanking is not used to acknowledge a favor, thanking expresses gratitude. It means your boss appreciates your effort, that he doesn't consider you a robot who does work solely for the money. Maybe he thinks you put a little bit of yourself into the work.
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