“Swift will be open source later this year”

Post by narsil » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 3:23 AM UTC

chc wrote: post #20

dmritard96 wrote: post #15

I will surely be downvoted for speaking so off the cuff, but I haven't really enjoyed swift so far. How has the general developer reception been to the language, not just with respect to obj-c, but also to java or any other turing complete language?

You'd probably get more upvotes if you didn't start out by complaining about hypothetical downvotes.

Post by m_mueller » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 3:32 AM UTC

eropple wrote: post #384

abalone wrote: post #363

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The key word here is "partly" Swift. I would not put it past Apple to use an intermediary framework that hosts a Swift runtime and calls into native Android APIs. That keeps the non-UI logic in one codebase.

That's more or less what they do with iTunes, isn't it? I recall there being an incomplete library packaged with iTunes once upon a time (with stuff like a stub implementation of Grand Central Dispatch that was neither grand nor dispatching).

Post by menghang » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 3:49 AM UTC

Post by wyclif » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 3:50 AM UTC

kristopolous wrote: post #333

sjackso wrote: post #110

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Supporting Linux is a surprise, but I think it's a great move on their part. Think: How many iOS apps are frontends to a server API? And how many of those APIs are running on Linux servers? Swift on Linux means ~all the code for a client-server iOS app can be written in the same language.

The fact that I don't use OSX has been a barrier to getting better at iOS development. Hackintoshing has proven to be quite elusive and the vmware and vbox USB layers in Linux don't convince virtualized OSX enough to transfer over apps to my iDevices. I'm not convinced you can get to high quality by testing strictly on emulators. If anyone has an old mac that can run modern xCode (you probably know what this constitu…

Post by shabbyrobe » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 3:52 AM UTC

ratfacemcgee wrote: post #401

kristopolous wrote: post #333

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The fact that I don't use OSX has been a barrier to getting better at iOS development. Hackintoshing has proven to be quite elusive and the vmware and vbox USB layers in Linux don't convince virtualized OSX enough to transfer over apps to my iDevices. I'm not convinced you can get to high quality by testing strictly on emulators. If anyone has an old mac that can run modern xCode (you probably know what this constitu…

Xcode is written Xcode, not xCode. Thank you and good night. ps. if you have any friends who work in Apple retail, twice a year or so they have a big clear out of some of the internal use machines. You can pick up fairly good machines for very very cheap. They had 2009 white MacBooks for 170 bucks or so the last time.