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Supporting Linux is a surprise, but I think it's a great move on their part. Think: How many iOS apps are frontends to a server API? And how many of those APIs are running on Linux servers? Swift on Linux means ~all the code for a client-server iOS app can be written in the same language.
So here's the thing. They will release Apple Music for Android... and there's full stdlib of Swift support for Linux? Could it be that the Android app is partly Swift?
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Too little too late. Apple could have got my attention if they had done this from the start, but at this point I find it hard to get excited about this. Half the reason I find myself drawn to a new language is the culture and community surrounding it. You might think this seems silly at first glance, they're programming languages, not fraternities. But hear me out. Golang is a pragmatic crowd. Go into #go-nuts on fre…
Hey, look me up in a year and explain why you were wrong. Go has been out for 6 years and has less than 10,000 questions on StackOverFlow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/go Swift has 37,000 questions in its first year: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/swift I'm a fan of Go. I built my websites in it and I've written a few small apps. However, you really are overlooking how much of a difference the…
Can someone explain what it means for a language like this to be open source? I sort of get it for Python, means you can download the C files and mess with them. But isn't Swift written in like Assembly?
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Open Source wins! Seriously can't tell you the fights just 8 years ago in conventions with hundreds of librarians where most of them thought Free Software was the devil and hackers all had the key to destroying anything Open Sourced. So can we finally say that Hell has Frozen Over? Microsoft Open Sources Parts of Visual Studio and releases Linux Software. Apple open sourced their language and it will work on Linux.
Open Source did not win. In fact it destroyed a lot of potential markets. With this move Apple is dragging more and more developers that would be interested in Go/ Java (aka Android world) to its net. This is a win for Apple only.
Go is Google's language, Java is Oracle's, Rust is Mozilla's. Anything good for Go or Java is good for their respective companies, right?
What do you want? Some language to arrive from outer space fully formed and license-free?
This places Swift right along Golang and Rust as the new interesting language.
I think Rust fills a slightly different niche with its safety-first principle, but Swift should eventually be a really attractive choice for anyone building cross-platform stuff that also needs to run on iOS.
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They haven't pulled it off yet. They've just finally stated that they intend to do so , not actually done it yet. Prior to this, they hadn't even said it was on the table. So, progress, but they still haven't pulled it off.
They said it will happen by the end of 2015.
Still waiting.
Can someone explain what it means for a language like this to be open source? I sort of get it for Python, means you can download the C files and mess with them. But isn't Swift written in like Assembly?
It's potentially great news. It means I potentially don't need to own a Macbook Pro and use XCode just to build apps for iOS. Fuck that shit.
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As far as HN comments go, this one sets a pretty low bar. Is there even one doubt that this will happen? If not, the pedantic distinction between "announce they intend to" and "doing it" is extremely worthless...
Apple's Dylan language is now open source.[1] It's abandonware, but it's open source. (Jobs: "It's dead. We killed it.") The obsolete Macintosh Programmer's Workbench is also open source now. When Apple open sources something, it's usually because they're abandoning it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylan_%28programming_language%... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Programmer%27s_Works...
Open source Dylan was open sourced by a company called Functional Objects. The Macintosh Programmer's Workbench was never open source to my knowledge.
Since both of these are semi-obscure and incorrect it's obvious that you've just cursory searched for stuff you don't have direct knowledge of just to bass Apple (which has open sourced several things as well as provided changes back to the community, and not just when the license forced its hand).
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It's still uninformed crap that implies Apple reneged on a promise, when in reality they were forcibly stopped.
The fact still remains that Apple made a big promise without analyzing all the legal aspects of it. Most average to big size companies do the reverse of it - Make sure the legalities are in their favor before making big announcements.