Swift.net ? What? No Windows version? Why? ;)
“Swift will be open source later this year”
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#42Apple also announced their intention to make FaceTime an open standard. Don't hold your breath.
That's because the direct FaceTime communication was prevented by a patent lawsuit by a company called VirnetX.
Apple adapted how Facetime works to meet their demands, but that meant that Facetime wasn't the same anymore.
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#43And it runs on Linux.
Open Source wins! Seriously can't tell you the fights just 8 years ago in conventions with hundreds of librarians where most of them thought Free Software was the devil and hackers all had the key to destroying anything Open Sourced. So can we finally say that Hell has Frozen Over? Microsoft Open Sources Parts of Visual Studio and releases Linux Software. Apple open sourced their language and it will work on Linux.
Open Source did not win. In fact it destroyed a lot of potential markets. With this move Apple is dragging more and more developers that would be interested in Go/ Java (aka Android world) to its net.
This is a win for Apple only.
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#44Microsoft open sourced .NET and I don't see queues of people willing to use .NET just because it's open source.
You'll see people that all ready write .NET keep writing .NET though :)
The ability to rent a cheap VM to run a C# MVC application is great! Previously, I only wrote C# @ work, now I have the ability to do it outside and in. No one wants to pay XX$ more per month to license windows on a VM(at least not for the hobby stuff I do outside of work for fun)
I imagine it will be the same for iOS developers, it may not draw in new developers but there is a good chance that is may be used on projects that would've typically used a different platform simply because swift only runs on iOS.
The language probably won't see an explosive growth in new developers but you will see swift being picked over another language in places it wouldn't previously run.
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#45I will surely be downvoted for speaking so off the cuff, but I haven't really enjoyed swift so far. How has the general developer reception been to the language, not just with respect to obj-c, but also to java or any other turing complete language?
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#46This places Swift right along Golang and Rust as the new interesting language.
I think Rust fills a slightly different niche with its safety-first principle, but Swift should eventually be a really attractive choice for anyone building cross-platform stuff that also needs to run on iOS.
Swift has a huge advantage in that it's got a bigger community. It doesn't matter which language is the best. On StackOverFlow, for example, Swift has many more questions asked and answered. I've catalogued over 1000 blogs in the first year alone.
http://www.h4labs.com/dev/ios/swift.html
All this makes it much easier to learn Swift in a short period of time.
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#47Seeing as Objective-C has never took off on non Apple platforms (and is not any useful without Cocoa APIs) why would Swift be an exception?
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#48I remember a thread on HN [1] from a few months ago talking about how apple was never going to do this. I'm so glad they were able to pull it off! Good for you, Apple! [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8488808
They haven't pulled it off yet. They've just finally stated that they intend to do so , not actually done it yet. Prior to this, they hadn't even said it was on the table. So, progress, but they still haven't pulled it off.
They said it will happen by the end of 2015.
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#50Thank you Microsoft for this.