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I commented on a flagged post on why this is an issue for me personally: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9674958
Interesting -- another discussion of this incident was at the top spot of HN some 30 mins ago, and was flagkilled. Is it that we're not interested in discussing it, or only interested in discussing it if certain people / viewpoints are not allowed?
Pretty sure that the concensus is that the author of that submission is insane and trying to read his screed as something coming from a mentally healthy person is a waste of time.
Coming soon: left and right wing tech conferences.
And tech is already fractured along left and right lines. Some people are hard-line libertarians who believe that businesses should be able to hire and fire whomever they please for whatever reason they please, right down to celebrating the fact that Elon Musk wouldn’t hire someone who used the expression “shoot hoops.”
Others deeply believe that tech is an opportunity to right social injustices, to give opportunities to those who were previously shut out, and to bring the world closer together.
Whatever you or I believe about this particular decision, it is clearly consistent with the trend towards things like codes of conduct. And the reaction is clearly consistent with the reaction to things like codes of conduct.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty sure that the concensus is that the author of that submission is insane and trying to read his screed as something coming from a mentally healthy person is a waste of time.
I agree that submission was more than a little out there, but it's strange how little impact this event has had on HN, given the subject matter. Maybe this submission will break through.
It wasn't overtly racist or filled with profanity; perhaps some people just wanted to silence it.
Coming soon: left and right wing tech conferences.
The "No Voice, Free Exit" response: Hopefully right next to each other, dutifully segregated with freedom of movement maintained between each. Edit: Now, certain of the neo-reactos are hyper-cautious about the effects of entryism, which the above scenario would seem powerless to prevent, but so long as public displays of political identification have no effect on the actual behavior of the governors in the NVFE world…
Must politics divide everything in our lives? That sounds like a horrible world to live in.
Interesting -- another discussion of this incident was at the top spot of HN some 30 mins ago, and was flagkilled. Is it that we're not interested in discussing it, or only interested in discussing it if certain people / viewpoints are not allowed?
Pretty sure that the concensus is that the author of that submission is insane and trying to read his screed as something coming from a mentally healthy person is a waste of time.
Kicking people from your tech conference because they were racist outside of it hands veto power to whoever determines what racism is and when something is 'too racist'. The same goes for the other beyond-the-pale isms like sexism, fascism, etc. I commented on a flagged post on why this is an issue for me personally: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9674958
I think this is Alex Miller’s decision.
Interesting -- another discussion of this incident was at the top spot of HN some 30 mins ago, and was flagkilled. Is it that we're not interested in discussing it, or only interested in discussing it if certain people / viewpoints are not allowed?
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/09/technol...
I used to believe it could be saved but now I generally believe that the era of technology having a place for iconoclastic freethinkers is long over.