Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer • Hacker News Board

Re: Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer

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Post by JupiterMoon » Sat, Jun 06, 2015, 6:05 AM UTC

yellowapple wrote: post #93

JupiterMoon wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK I must be really lucky. I find NetworkManager just works. It does ask for my admin password when it doesn't need it but I find that if I just ignore that prompt then everything is fine.

Odd that it's asking for the admin password. The more common issue with passwords is that it incessantly prompts for the user's password or for the wireless network passphrase due to some strange inability to talk to whatever keyring daemon is in use (and thus an inability to retrieve network passwords). I usually work around that by disabling the keyring (either globally or simply preventing NetworkManager from usin…

I've always used a separate non-sudo account for my general computing even on my personal machines and just use the sudo account as an admin account.

EDIT Also it doesn't actually need the password seeing as I never type it in and my wifi works fine (with multiple networks every day).

Re: Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer

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Post by dktbs » Sat, Jun 06, 2015, 6:56 AM UTC

dbbolton wrote: post #79

Off topic writing criticism: avoid using synonyms for "said", like "replied", "inquired", and "countered". It's ostentatious and distracting. Let the dialog speak for itself, and only add the bare minimum needed for the reader to keep track of who's saying what: http://bookblog.kjodle.net/2011/06/he-said-she-said-the-fine... Now compare this to the original: "They don't speak much English yet, but maybe the public li…

Its good you posted this, otherwise the article might have been completely indecipherable.

Re: Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer

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Post by JupiterMoon » Sat, Jun 06, 2015, 7:08 AM UTC

psykovsky wrote: post #53

JupiterMoon wrote: post #52

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Never install pirated versions of software on any computer. It is simply not worth it.

That also, ofcourse. But on our own machines we can decide, and if you're like me, every computer in your house uses a flavour of Linux and you don't even think about pirated software or software licenses most of the time.

If I set up someone's computer for them they get only programs for which they have licenses and FOSS stuff.

I don't usually get asked to set up computers more than once :)

Re: Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer

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Post by dbbolton » Sat, Jun 06, 2015, 3:51 PM UTC

dktbs wrote: post #102

dbbolton wrote: post #79

Off topic writing criticism: avoid using synonyms for "said", like "replied", "inquired", and "countered". It's ostentatious and distracting. Let the dialog speak for itself, and only add the bare minimum needed for the reader to keep track of who's saying what: http://bookblog.kjodle.net/2011/06/he-said-she-said-the-fine... Now compare this to the original: "They don't speak much English yet, but maybe the public li…

Its good you posted this, otherwise the article might have been completely indecipherable.

I never said it was anything of the sort. I said the dialog attribution style was ostentatious and distracting. Also, I prefaced my entire comment with a warning that it was off topic. I'm sorry you still feel so offended by it.

Re: Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer

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Post by digi_owl » Sat, Jun 06, 2015, 9:37 PM UTC

yellowapple wrote: post #92

zxcvcxz wrote: post #87

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Well I've never had any of the problems you're experiencing on Linux in the past 3 years. Only issue I've had was a driver not being included by default. I've had issues on OS X and Windows though, and they put billions of dollars into their operating systems. So if they can't get it right, then maybe the problems go beyond the code and into the actual hardware?

Maybe you're just lucky. Or perhaps I'm just unlucky. Whatever the case, I know it's not the hardware; wpa_supplicant (the underlying software that allows NetworkManager to function) has (in my experience) generally worked much better than NetworkManager, and OpenBSD's networking stack is also pretty flawless in my experience. So it's something about NetworkManager specifically that needs to be fixed or replaced. And…

I fear that at least one of the big DEs have contracted a severe case of developer paternalism.

In essence the developers involved are attempting to encode every use case they can think of into the program logic, and anything outside of that gets met with a "why would you want to do that?!".

Re: Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer

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Post by psykovsky » Sun, Jun 07, 2015, 9:44 PM UTC

JupiterMoon wrote: post #103

psykovsky wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That also, ofcourse. But on our own machines we can decide, and if you're like me, every computer in your house uses a flavour of Linux and you don't even think about pirated software or software licenses most of the time.

If I set up someone's computer for them they get only programs for which they have licenses and FOSS stuff. I don't usually get asked to set up computers more than once :)

I love when it gets to the part where they ask me how to download a youtube video as mp3 and I introduce them to youtube-dl, the terminal and a bit of .bash_aliases magic to make the youtube-dl command a bit easier. Their face: priceless =)

Re: Welcome to America: Here's Your Linux Computer

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Post by JupiterMoon » Sat, Jun 13, 2015, 11:02 AM UTC

psykovsky wrote: post #106

JupiterMoon wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I set up someone's computer for them they get only programs for which they have licenses and FOSS stuff. I don't usually get asked to set up computers more than once :)

I love when it gets to the part where they ask me how to download a youtube video as mp3 and I introduce them to youtube-dl, the terminal and a bit of .bash_aliases magic to make the youtube-dl command a bit easier. Their face: priceless =)

Yeah I would not show someone that! I wouldn't open up a friend to the copyright trolls...