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Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by bane »

mjklin wrote: post #101
bane wrote: post #50

I've recently become a Soylent convert. I originally got it just as a quick breakfast replacement. It's not life changing, but here's what I think of it and why I use it: - It's quick and cheap. About $3 a meal, and I prepare a whole pouch at a time (just make sure to drink it all within 48 hours). Meal prep and clean-up time amortized across 3 meals is something like 20 seconds per meal. Even microwaves taquitos are…

I also got the dreams. And you didn't mention the flatulence. The first time I did an all-Soylent day was for a full day bus ride. I felt so sorry for the people sitting near me... Sorry folks, I didn't know!

I came on board with 1.4 and haven't noticed more than normal flatulence. But I also tend to have a fiber rich diet so...

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by dom96 »

tormeh wrote: post #58
MrUnderhill wrote: post #12

For Europeans wanting to try it, check out Joylent[1] as well, a Soylent fork based in Netherlands. They do a few different tastes too (vanilla, strawberry, banana, chocolate and soon mango). [1] https://joylent.eu

Why is molybdenum at 4x RDI, though? According to Wikipedia, too much molybdenum is rather bad.

Wikipedia states that:

> Although human toxicity data is unavailable, animal studies have shown that chronic ingestion of more than 10 mg/day of molybdenum can cause diarrhea, growth retardation, infertility, low birth weight and gout

According to the Joylent website. One bag of Joylent contains 207µg of Molybdenum. So if my math is correct (and the animals tested in that study behave the same way as humans) then you would need to ingest about 37 bags of Joylent per day to reach that amount. Perhaps it would be a good idea for them to lower the amount of Molybdenum, just in case.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by baddox »

3pt14159 wrote: post #39
fweespeech wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.mealsquares.com/nutrition-facts.html 2000 calories of it is 130% of your daily saturated fat...and 126% of total fat. Eh. Soylent you could get away with eating it all day [theoretically]. MealSquares you need to supplement with other foods due to the fact content or you'll end up screwing your health with that much saturated fat. http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter... Additionally…

Eh, saturated fat isn't great, but it isn't as terrible as we used to think. Check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat#Association_with... To me the problem is the sugar content. It's easily double, even for a large man, and almost triple for a small woman.

Why does the sugar content seem too high? It looks right for me based on the usual sources. Perhaps it's too high for a weight loss diet, but I don't think it's intended for that.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by baddox »

tormeh wrote: post #95
oldmanjay wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you don't actually know enough to make an honest assessment, then you can't come to an honest conclusion. Calling "whole food" safer is an emotional response not unlike that which make "non-GMO Himalayan sea salt" a thing people buy.

No, we know people do fine on traditionally healthy food. We do not know whether they do fine on Soylent. My guess is that anyone 100% on Soylent will become malnutritioned either very subtly or over a long time frame. Personally, I think that's fine as the body can handle pretty fucked up diets and no one is really going to go 100% Soylent anyway. Like, I'd replace 80% of my diet with Soylent if they shipped to me a…

> No, we know people do fine on traditionally healthy food. We do not know whether they do fine on Soylent.

But we don't really know how far along the scale between dead and in maximum possible health traditionally healthy food gets us. Short of some genuine scientific results, I see no reason to suspect that Soylent is less healthy than traditionally healthy food. It could just as easily be more healthy.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by jules »

groby_b wrote: post #138
jules wrote: post #104

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> Surely not every meal you eat is such a delight. An awful lot of food is just calorie stuffing to maintain energy. It is? Not really for me and people I know. You can still make calorie stuffing enjoyable. Even if I'm alone I can whip up a 10 minute meal that tastes damn nice compared to what Soylent is supposed to taste like. E.g. heat a wok with a bit of oil, dump in a package of pre sliced wok vegetables and a h…

Wait, you only soak the noodles, don't cook them? Isn't that... crunchy? (Sorry for derailing the soylent debate, but having a recipe is more interesting to me than debating nutrient transport vehicles :)

It depends on the type of noodles. Some types you can just soak, and then you throw them into the wok to heat them (because eating cold noodles isn't very nice). Some of them you have to soak with boiling or at least hot water to make them soft, and some you do have to cook for a period of time (e.g. spaghetti).

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by zyxley »

mrbill wrote: post #62
jamii wrote: post #11

I tried soylent for a while and found the experience fairly unpleasant. I switched to http://www.mealsquares.com/ instead. Warmed up, they taste like a dense brownie. The thinking detailed on their website and the level of care that clearly went into choosing a safe recipe gives me a lot more confidence than soylent did eg > First, there's nothing especially risky or unusual in MealSquares; they're made from a broad…

I tried out MealSquares when they were first available. Ate three of them before I ended up throwing the rest of the package in the trash. Really unappetizing and inedible, unless they've changed the recipe since then.

I got a chance to try one recently (last month), and, unfortunately, I have to echo the sentiment. The best comparison I can make to the taste and texture is something like an extremely dense and gritty version of a very dark rye bread. Despite the creators' comparisons to muffins or brownies and how people say they have too much sugar, there was no sweetness to it at all.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by detrino »

cblock811 wrote: post #79

The value prop that people will save money is kind of funny to me. My diet: Breakfast: Oatmeal, honey, cinnamon $0.20 Lunch: Large Salad(spinach, carrot, tomato, cucumber, mushroom, bell pepper, sometimes almonds) $2.50 Dinner: Steamed Veggies and Seared Tilapia (kale, carrot, tomato, capers, tilapia) $3.50 If people just budged properly they would be fine. That being said, I'm curious to try soylent and have purchas…

That sounds like less than 1000 calories a day. You must be getting more calories than that or you are very atypical.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by gtk40 »

criley2 wrote: post #22
gtk40 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a lot no matter how you look at it though. If you assume someone eats 2,000 calories a day and 60,000 calories a month of only this one product, that would still be providing a month worth of food for 15 billion people.

I think a person eats 2,000 kilocalories a day and 2,000,000 calories per day. When one person eats 2M calories a day, selling trillions of calories is suddenly not so hard!

Ah, perhaps you're right. I assumed by the uppercase 'C' it was kilocalories, but maybe it was just how it was formatted.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by refurb »

tetraodonpuffer wrote: post #132
cblock811 wrote: post #79

The value prop that people will save money is kind of funny to me. My diet: Breakfast: Oatmeal, honey, cinnamon $0.20 Lunch: Large Salad(spinach, carrot, tomato, cucumber, mushroom, bell pepper, sometimes almonds) $2.50 Dinner: Steamed Veggies and Seared Tilapia (kale, carrot, tomato, capers, tilapia) $3.50 If people just budged properly they would be fine. That being said, I'm curious to try soylent and have purchas…

it depends on where you live, over here a medium sized bunch of organic kale is $2.99 at whole foods by itself, and $0.20 won't get you that many oats, let alone honey or cinnamon. The advantage of things like Soylent is that the price is the same no matter where you live, whether you are in a small town with great produce where it's cheap or whether you live in an expensive downtown with limited access.

I don't know how anyone can afford to shop at Whole Foods!

If you want fresh veggies and fruit for cheap, go find an Asian supermarket. If you walk in and realize you're the only non-Asian, then you're in the right place.

I can easily buy enough fruits and vegetables to last a week for $15. We're talking multiple serving of both for lunch and dinner for 7 days.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Post by tunesmith »

bane wrote: post #50

I've recently become a Soylent convert. I originally got it just as a quick breakfast replacement. It's not life changing, but here's what I think of it and why I use it: - It's quick and cheap. About $3 a meal, and I prepare a whole pouch at a time (just make sure to drink it all within 48 hours). Meal prep and clean-up time amortized across 3 meals is something like 20 seconds per meal. Even microwaves taquitos are…

That "bloating" is indigestion. There's still something there they haven't figured out. It's not just flatulence, it's heartburn, acid reflux, etc.
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