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How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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This is very interesting and strange to me. Cooking and eating tasty and new food in the company of other people is a major source of enjoyment in my life. I understand that most people may not enjoy cooking, but surely most people enjoy eating tasty food. Why would you give that up for Soylent?

For what percentage of your meals do you cook and eat tasty new food in the company of other people?

All 3 together? Not that much. At least one of those 3? 99% of the time.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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No, we know people do fine on traditionally healthy food. We do not know whether they do fine on Soylent. My guess is that anyone 100% on Soylent will become malnutritioned either very subtly or over a long time frame. Personally, I think that's fine as the body can handle pretty fucked up diets and no one is really going to go 100% Soylent anyway. Like, I'd replace 80% of my diet with Soylent if they shipped to me a…

> we know people do fine on traditionally healthy food This is a valid point to an extent, but we don't know that people do fine on a particular subset of traditionally healthy ingredients. We may discover that Soylent lacks some subtle nutrient, but we could discover the same thing with MealSquares.

The body reflexes to things like mastication, salivation, etc triggered by texture and the presence of actual things in your mouth, so I think the (bias of) argument is more along the lines of reducing the variables away from normal eating. If you look at the military and other people who "starve for a living" (hikers, climbers, explorers etc), these considerations are very self-evident and at the forefront of mind. Its not clear that "wishing them away" (considerations of texture/pallatability) is backed up by any hard science. But I'd be curious to see if there are any leads in that direction.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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The value prop that people will save money is kind of funny to me. My diet: Breakfast: Oatmeal, honey, cinnamon $0.20 Lunch: Large Salad(spinach, carrot, tomato, cucumber, mushroom, bell pepper, sometimes almonds) $2.50 Dinner: Steamed Veggies and Seared Tilapia (kale, carrot, tomato, capers, tilapia) $3.50 If people just budged properly they would be fine. That being said, I'm curious to try soylent and have purchas…

Serious question -- where do you shop that this amount of food for an adult only costs this much?

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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The right amount of saturated fat to eat is a major controversy, and I think you're promoting incorrect beliefs here.

So you know better than the NHS, the people who set the guidelines in the US, etc ...? Yes, but it exceeds the total daily allowance for the NHS, the US equivalent, etc. There is literally no one that says "Everyone should eat 30g of saturated fat a day"

I don't understand the saturated fat hate. Cultures have existed that have gotten 50% or higher of their total calories from nearly pure animal fat sources. Eskimos (or is the politically correct term Inuit or something else now?) lived on blubber, and only started experiencing the whole heart disease/obesity epidemic when switched to a more "conventional" grain-heavy diet.

I wouldn't trust the USDA to tell me what to eat as far as I can throw them and all of their agriculture lobbyists. RDA's are a joke.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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The value prop that people will save money is kind of funny to me. My diet: Breakfast: Oatmeal, honey, cinnamon $0.20 Lunch: Large Salad(spinach, carrot, tomato, cucumber, mushroom, bell pepper, sometimes almonds) $2.50 Dinner: Steamed Veggies and Seared Tilapia (kale, carrot, tomato, capers, tilapia) $3.50 If people just budged properly they would be fine. That being said, I'm curious to try soylent and have purchas…

Well, time = money, so unless you make that every week and have 0 daily prep/cook time, allowing you to amortize the bulk prep time across the week, Soylent probably saves you at least 8 hours a week assuming 20 minute prep/cook time per meal (I feel like, due to slop time, 20 minutes is about the minimum for this, unless you got really, really efficient with how you stored ingredients).

Further, Soylent is about $9/day, and your food system is only a bit less expensive at $6.20/day. In contrast, I've lived for months off of DIY soylents that were $3.50/day.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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I feel like this entire operation could run on one box...

Engineering is not purely technical prowess, it's the balance of technology, economy, organization and other variables.

I see no mention of cost in this article; is this infrastructure friendly to the future of the business?

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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post #72

I tried Soylent 1.4 for four days (one meal per day - eased into it). I had incredibly bad headaches. I felt weird , like my vision was impacted. It felt like I was getting a fever, even, although I wasn't. I've never had a "food" have such an immediate, negative impact on me. And it tasted pretty bad. Even if they describe it as "neutral," or like pancake batter, that's not exactly a good experience. Unfortunately,…

Never tried soylent, but as someone who has had a lot of trouble with this in the past, that does sound a lot like dehydration...

But maybe not, who knows!

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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post #111

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> Even if I'm alone I can whip up a 10 minute meal that tastes damn nice compared to what Soylent is supposed to taste like. E.g. heat a wok with a bit of oil, dump in a package of pre sliced wok vegetables and a handful of cashew nuts. Your lack of empathy for others' lifestyles is outstanding. Not everyone has access to a kitchen at lunch, or wants to deal with the grocery buying and washing dishes that come with c…

My argument can't be aimed at fast food because most people find that it tastes nice. You could indeed make a different argument based on price and health against it. The point of my argument is that you don't need to choose between healthy and fast (Soylent), or tasty and fast (fast food), or healthy and tasty (elaborate home cooking). With just a little bit of know-how and practice you can have all three. I'm not t…

I make my soylent in the pitcher they sent me, so when it is empty I rinse it a couple times and make up the next batch. I guess you could use a blender, but it is unnecessary if you spend the 30 seconds they advise shaking it.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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What's your hourly wage? Don't forget an hour of your time! Not saying that makes it impractical to cook your own food, but we can't act like the only cost in making dinner is the raw materials. As an aside, it's pretty difficult to maintain those price levels if you'd like to eat more than oatmeal, spinach salad, and tilapia every day.

That only makes sense if you're taking time off work to cook, which most people aren't. Otherwise you weren't getting paid for that hour anyway.

This is hacker news. Why would anyone here ever take time off of work? If you're still employed (and who is?) by some BigCorp you can at least have side projects in your off time. But most of the people here are founding one or more startups while managing a productized consultancy and can probably scale their billable time to something like 22.5 hours per day (assuming 90 minutes of sleep time distributed via the Uberman schedule). So this isn't a fair argument against soylent for most people in software/tech jobs, and probably soon most other jobs as the contractor model becomes more popular and jobs become uberified.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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post #74

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Are you suggesting to make your dietary plans around something that will end in nutritional deficiency in some number of years? That doesn't sound like a good plan to me, not to mention the cost of doing something like soylent instead of OJ and cheddar cheese is pretty low. I think I'll take that sacrifice.

Soylent will kill you over the years, certainly before the dairy and fruit only diet I mentioned above. Soylent is loaded with oxidized cholesterols and rancid poly unsaturated fats, as well as toxic gumming agents. I'll also bet a lot of people don't do well on so much oats.

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