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#101
Computers can suck sometimes. Maybe stepping away from them for a while might be helpful.

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#102
Hey! Been there. You are not alone. Nowhere close, that's just how depression makes you feel. You're already reaching out, that's great, keep reaching and while most people won't get it those of us who have been through it will recognize where you are and some will reach back. That's how we got out, and some day you'll be the person who's reaching back and trying to help people get through it.

First, and most importantly, if you're _very_ depressed you may need help to break through the veil of darkness that's surrounding you. Peace and happiness are still in this world and their seeds are still in your heart, but depression is system of barriers that you may need very real and tangible help to break through. Sometimes our minds malfunction a little bit, it's in their nature.

If you love HN maybe check out the vlogbros 3 minute talk on perspective and depression[0]. It's the nerdiest account of depression I've ever heard. They also have a crash course on psychology[1] which might make psychology less unknown and therefore less scary if that's maybe a reason you're turning to us instead of a psychologist who is probably better equipped to help you (I'm only guessing based on reasons I don't go to the doctor when I need to.)

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ooCeoh6608 [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo4pMVb0R6M&list=PL8dPuuaLjX...

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#103
Live. I don't even know you, but I want you to live.

As ridiculously cliche as it sounds, "This too shall pass." Time will heal your wounds. You'll gain experience from this and it will make you stronger.

When we're down, we think "But life is too painful, death will give me peace." There will always be times of pain, humiliation, and loneliness. Sure, but life can be wonderful too. And those great moments are always worth the struggle.

Get help. Call a suicide hotline - I did once. You'll get through your situation. And you'll go on to have wonderful moments in life and the inner strength to beat whatever comes next.

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#104
call me at +961 71 371133. i'm no organisation, i'm just an ordinary person like you. So if you feel like talking to someone give me a call anytime.

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#105
post #64

came across this quote once, and got stuck to my mind for life. Hope this quote inspire you. if you have courage to end your life, what else you are afraid of? why not you continue to live on to see where's tomorrow got for you? - [1] anthong wong original quote 你连死都想了那还怕什么,敢死不敢活啊?你就活下去看看明天是怎么样 [1] [chinese][video] http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/UVCLmDVwT_A/

This is powerful, thank you very much for sharing it.

It's going to stick with me, for sure.

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#106
I've experienced this sort of feeling a lot. It's not something I like to talk about with professional colleagues because I am the guy you expect to be more reliable than you, and if I am sometimes curled up in a depressed ball unsure if I want to keep breathing, how can I be more reliable than you?

Don't do it. You reached out, that's good.

What really got me out of the habit of thinking this way - basically a huge distraction from the things you need to do to make yourself happy - was to try and imagine if there was possibly a way to disappear completely without making the lives of the other people I know worse.

I will say, in my early years in San Francisco as a student, whenever I felt like there was absolutely no hope, I would take a $2 train to the beach, take my shoes off, and walk the entire length experiencing how small I am and comparing my relatively insignificant problems to the vastness of the ocean.

Unfortunately, we can't all have that, but everyone can go outside, stop listening to the same music or whatever over and over and just watch a squirrel climb a tree, two ducks fight over a piece of bread, talk to a homeless person.

And whoever's actions you feel are linked to the way you feel right now, surgically remove them from your life.

Every time I haven't ended my life, I've had the opportunity to experience amazing things that I couldn't even imagine.

The crossroad is an illusion. If you attempt and fail - the most common outcome - you could find yourself further burdened.

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#107

Hey! Been there. You are not alone. Nowhere close, that's just how depression makes you feel. You're already reaching out, that's great, keep reaching and while most people won't get it those of us who have been through it will recognize where you are and some will reach back. That's how we got out, and some day you'll be the person who's reaching back and trying to help people get through it. First, and most importa…

How could I forget Hyperbole and a Half's classic post on depression? If you've ever felt depressed and like nobody understands, or if you've ever struggled to understand somebody going through depression, read this web-cartoony thing: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-par...

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#108
post #64

came across this quote once, and got stuck to my mind for life. Hope this quote inspire you. if you have courage to end your life, what else you are afraid of? why not you continue to live on to see where's tomorrow got for you? - [1] anthong wong original quote 你连死都想了那还怕什么,敢死不敢活啊?你就活下去看看明天是怎么样 [1] [chinese][video] http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/UVCLmDVwT_A/

This is what I don't understand as well. I'm sure there's a feeling that things will never get better, but for the people who're considering suicide because they lost their job/they're in debt/whatever external, why not just pack up and leave to a distant country to start a new life? There's literally nothing more final than killing yourself, so why not just give starting a new life a shot?

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post #88

Really ought to delink this one; not sure it's appropriate for HN, and there are plenty of people already here who will keep the conversation going if OP wants to talk. I know I don't come to HN to have to think about mortality, and for folks who might actually be hurting, seeing a post like this might trigger some nasty memories or feelings. My step brother, for example, killed himself, and now I'm having to think a…

Given the prevalence of anxiety and depression in the industry, I really don't think delinking this post is the answer. This person is likely amongst those "who might actually be hurting" - try some compassion, it will do you good.

It's reasonable to think that the person you're responding to is also in the "might actually be hurting" category, suicide of a family member is generally traumatic and life changing. We can show them and OP compassion at the same time.

'Nice' means we just do what they say and delink the post, 'kind' means we try to understand where they're coming from and try to help them understand that while we value their opinion and input we also value this discussion.

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#110
post #95
post #88

Really ought to delink this one; not sure it's appropriate for HN, and there are plenty of people already here who will keep the conversation going if OP wants to talk. I know I don't come to HN to have to think about mortality, and for folks who might actually be hurting, seeing a post like this might trigger some nasty memories or feelings. My step brother, for example, killed himself, and now I'm having to think a…

Given the prevalence of anxiety and depression in the industry, I really don't think delinking this post is the answer. This person is likely amongst those "who might actually be hurting" - try some compassion, it will do you good.

> Given the prevalence of anxiety and depression in the industry

That's not true, I don't think, and your dispassionate "grow some balls" comment at the end is pretty ironic and certainly hurtful. :( I hope I'm misunderstanding what you meant by that...

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