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Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#172
I loved yahoo pipes. I used it to filter high-traffic RSS to do a trivial word-match on content. I am now in the process of moving this to Newsblur, which allows filtering RSS content on tags, authors, or any word in the title. It's actually quite good, although we can't use the same filters for multiple feeds; at least it does the job.

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

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post #169

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It's amazing how much a shift of management focus can change things... Google embraces RSS, develops the premiere online RSS reader, so good that even stand alone readers are largely abandoned... then google nukes RSS support from Chrome, and shutters Reader. And the world is worse off for it. It definitely inspires a "never forget" kind of mindset, such that I don't trust relying on a SaaS that I don't have a person…

Twitter took RSS as a concept and humanized it

RSS is an open format, Twitter is a walled garden.

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#174

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good one. it's what one famous blogger calls the 'elop effect': http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/08/coining...

It wasn't Elop that sank Nokia, it was Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo. By the time Elop was announced as CEO in late 2010, Kallasvuo had already guaranteed Nokia was toast. Just go back to the way Nokia was behaving, and what they were saying in 2007/2008 for easy proof of that. "Nokia CEO calls Apple iPhone ‘niche product’" http://macdailynews.com/2008/04/17/nokia_shares_slammed_in_w... http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/n…

> Elop was a director of consulting for Lotus Development Corporation before becoming CIO for Boston Chicken in 1992,[3][7] which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1998

> In the same year, he joined Macromedia's Web/IT department[7] [...] from January 2005[10] for three months before their acquisition by Adobe Systems

> He was then president of worldwide field operations at Adobe, tendering his resignation in June 2006 and leaving in December,[12] after which he was the COO of Juniper Networks for exactly one year from January 2007 – 2008

This is not the CV of a man that I would hire for anything other than running a going concern into the ground.

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#175
post #169

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It's amazing how much a shift of management focus can change things... Google embraces RSS, develops the premiere online RSS reader, so good that even stand alone readers are largely abandoned... then google nukes RSS support from Chrome, and shutters Reader. And the world is worse off for it. It definitely inspires a "never forget" kind of mindset, such that I don't trust relying on a SaaS that I don't have a person…

Twitter took RSS as a concept and humanized it

If Twitter is making it more human, I'd rather be ruled by the robot army...

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#176
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Several reasons I can think of. For one, no one at Yahoo seemed to understand what Pipes was for (part of a wider problem where Yahoo didn't seem to know what the company was for). For another, Yahoo legal prevented us from doing any kind of long-term storage of RSS feeds. That made the service far less useful than it could have been. Finally, they didn't give it any resources at all. Management was too preoccupied w…

> legal prevented us from doing any kind of long-term storage of RSS feeds Wait, is there something legally wrong about storing RSS feed data?

If you are redistributing, hosting or using it commercially you have to have the agreement of the author of the content. RSS just gives you access in another way than HTML, but it does not circumvent copyright.

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#177
So sad to see Pipes go! I absolutely love Pipes and was just raving about it to a coworker this week. Terrific UI and a fantastic idea. When development fizzled out, I tried to find another service as a replacement, but everything I've tried has fallen short. I'm really disappointed as Pipes is definitely one of the best ideas that never caught on line it should. Popfly, while short lived, had the advantage of being able to modify the code behind, but it didn't come close to the fantastic ease of use and tremendous potential for reuse.

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#178
post #6

pipes creator here: sad to see pipes shutdown. i am surprised it lasted this long -- it was abandoned years ago. on the positive side, it is nice to see it mentioned in the same sentence as y! maps which used to be a big deal back in the day.

Thanks for creating something so awesome. I have relied on it heavily for years to clean up dodgy feeds.

Seriously, I think the only Yahoo products I use are Pipes, Groups and Flickr. And Flickr doesn't really count.

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#179
One of the truly powerful services, I will really miss. Mrs. Meyer squeezes out things at Y! like a lemon.

EDIT: added OSS & Commercial alternatives

free or commercial:

    [1] http://createfeed.fivefilters.org/
    [2] http://www.feedsapi.com/ 
    [3] https://theenginuity.com/search/
    [4] https://zapier.com/
    [5] http://www.elastic.io/
    [6] https://ifttt.com/

open source:

    [1] https://github.com/olviko/RssPercolator
    [2] https://github.com/fogbeam/Neddick/
    [3] https://github.com/cantino/huginn
    [4] https://github.com/fullscale/pypes
    [5] https://github.com/jparkrr/ISyTT
    [6] https://github.com/atask/shifttt
    [7] https://github.com/KLVN/F7_T7_RSSFeed

Re: Yahoo Pipes End-Of-life Announcement

#180
post #163

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I'd count google mostly as an example of deprecating or limiting useful interfaces. Yes, you can feed them stuff in "open" formats, but getting stuff out is harder. First example that comes to mind is youtube APIs, which offered easier access to stuff. Now try to get a feed of someones videos or similar... But it is possible that it's confirmation bias + uncommon sample on my part.

Now try to get a feed of someones videos or similar... What do you mean? Channels have an element linking to an RSS feed. In fact, just pasting a channel URL to an RSS reader should work. Example of a channel feed: https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCr4soU_...

.... true. So they deprecated the methods for it in the API, but it is right there on the page. Strange.
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