Tmux has left SourceForge • Hacker News Board

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by kuschku » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 4:42 PM UTC

doiwin wrote: post #105

Grue3 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already censor anything the Russian government doesn't like. [1] [1] https://gigaom.com/2014/12/05/github-gives-in-to-russian-cen...

As I understand it, they only block russian IPs from accessing it. That seems ok to me. Every country has it's own laws. There is now completely free speach anywhere around the world.

But that doesn’t happen – if a repo violates US law, they remove it completely, even if it would have been completely fine under German law, for example.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by astrodust » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 4:48 PM UTC

rplnt wrote: post #54

alptony wrote: post #52

From the "tmux-users" mailing list: > Will pull requests on GitHub now be allowed as a means of contributing patches? > No, patches still need to come by email to me [Nicholas Marriott] or the ML. I wonder, what's the main reason behind it? What's wrong with Github PRs?

The comments section.

I prefer GitHub comments over inane mailing lists where you either get everything, or nothing. GitHub's issue notifications are opt-in per issue, and still come by email if you want.

People who only take patches by email are being jerks.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by graffitici » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:01 PM UTC

artursapek wrote: post #130

I see SourceForge as being to code hosting platforms as GoDaddy is to domain registrars. They both started in the late 90s, exploded, and suffered from their success. They became infested with bad management, became bloated and difficult to use, and employed skeezy money-making tactics. GoDaddy doesn't seem to be in trouble the way SourceForge is, though.

What are the specific concerns with GoDaddy? I've been using them only as a domain registrar, and, well, they do register my domains.. I didn't know there were issues of the same magnitude as with SourceForge. What registrar do you use?

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by Osiris » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:02 PM UTC

wtbob wrote: post #149

artursapek wrote: post #130

I see SourceForge as being to code hosting platforms as GoDaddy is to domain registrars. They both started in the late 90s, exploded, and suffered from their success. They became infested with bad management, became bloated and difficult to use, and employed skeezy money-making tactics. GoDaddy doesn't seem to be in trouble the way SourceForge is, though.

As a customer of both GoDaddy and Namecheap, I have to say that GoDaddy offers a much better, more full-featured DNS control panel. Frankly, I can't see staying with Namecheap. I really don't get the hate for GoDaddy. SourceForge, OTOH, are reprehensible.

You can use the GoDaddy dns manager (dns.godaddy.com) without having your domain registered there. I use it because it's a much more robust DNS manager. You can manage your external domains with it.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by tertius » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:04 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #142

thefreeman wrote: post #137

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Honestly, I don't see how they aren't in trouble yet. With how long GoDaddy has been around, and how dominant they are in terms of "casual" domain owners, it blew me away when I saw that they have yet to be profitable a single year.

However Amazon isn't profitable either -- never has been.

Asset increase yoy is pretty ridiculous.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by Osiris » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:04 PM UTC

graffitici wrote: post #153

artursapek wrote: post #130

I see SourceForge as being to code hosting platforms as GoDaddy is to domain registrars. They both started in the late 90s, exploded, and suffered from their success. They became infested with bad management, became bloated and difficult to use, and employed skeezy money-making tactics. GoDaddy doesn't seem to be in trouble the way SourceForge is, though.

What are the specific concerns with GoDaddy? I've been using them only as a domain registrar, and, well, they do register my domains.. I didn't know there were issues of the same magnitude as with SourceForge. What registrar do you use?

I used to work there. People complain that they use deceptive practices, like a low intro rate and then very high cost automatic renewals. About 3-4 years ago they were bought by some private equity firms and they have been in the process of basically rewriting all their products. I was involved in a one year full rewrite which was later scrapped in favor of reselling Office 365 instead.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by rquirk » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:07 PM UTC

lcswi wrote: post #42

easytiger wrote: post #29

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Mailing lists on google groups, which is fine by me, but annoys a lot of people.

Especially because you cannot even read them without JavaScript or signing up.

Does this work for you? https://groups.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=forum/tm...

It works here with Firefox+noscript, but in w3m it messes up when you read an article and forces you to a "need JS" page. I might have added some other hack somewhere in FFx ages ago to get groups working that I've forgotten about.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by graffitici » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:09 PM UTC

Osiris wrote: post #156

graffitici wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the specific concerns with GoDaddy? I've been using them only as a domain registrar, and, well, they do register my domains.. I didn't know there were issues of the same magnitude as with SourceForge. What registrar do you use?

I used to work there. People complain that they use deceptive practices, like a low intro rate and then very high cost automatic renewals. About 3-4 years ago they were bought by some private equity firms and they have been in the process of basically rewriting all their products. I was involved in a one year full rewrite which was later scrapped in favor of reselling Office 365 instead.

Interesting. As someone from the industry, which other companies would you recommend?

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by _JamesA_ » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:22 PM UTC

wtbob wrote: post #149

artursapek wrote: post #130

I see SourceForge as being to code hosting platforms as GoDaddy is to domain registrars. They both started in the late 90s, exploded, and suffered from their success. They became infested with bad management, became bloated and difficult to use, and employed skeezy money-making tactics. GoDaddy doesn't seem to be in trouble the way SourceForge is, though.

As a customer of both GoDaddy and Namecheap, I have to say that GoDaddy offers a much better, more full-featured DNS control panel. Frankly, I can't see staying with Namecheap. I really don't get the hate for GoDaddy. SourceForge, OTOH, are reprehensible.

A free CloudFlare account allows unlimited domain DNS services and their 'control panel' is clean and straight forward.

Unlike GoDaddy their only upsell is for their paid CDN services.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by cstrahan » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 5:23 PM UTC

graffitici wrote: post #158

Osiris wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work there. People complain that they use deceptive practices, like a low intro rate and then very high cost automatic renewals. About 3-4 years ago they were bought by some private equity firms and they have been in the process of basically rewriting all their products. I was involved in a one year full rewrite which was later scrapped in favor of reselling Office 365 instead.

Interesting. As someone from the industry, which other companies would you recommend?

https://dnsimple.com/

I'm a happy customer, and I also used to work with the founder, Anthony Eden. He's a great guy, and so is the product.