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Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

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Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

#11

Mostly a programmer, and not really. To be honest I would be much happier with better CSS capabilities (better syntax, variables) than video tags and whatnot. I'm not against it obviously, but probably won't be rushing out to learn all the new features.

Yes, I'd be much more interested in better CSS, solving layout problems, etc., then adding every tag someone can throw into a hat.

Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

#12

Mostly a programmer, and not really. To be honest I would be much happier with better CSS capabilities (better syntax, variables) than video tags and whatnot. I'm not against it obviously, but probably won't be rushing out to learn all the new features.

OK, so what about what the new elements do for CSS? Won't style sheets be more portable now that we have , , etc.?

Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

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Almost all of the HTML features in HTML5 are boring and barely useful. The rest, basically, and are crippled.

The useful parts of HTML5 are the new JavaScript APIs (which arguably don't really belong). Unfortunately many important ones are missing, and of the ones which are present many are incomplete or broken.

Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

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post #2

Programmer. It doesn't excite me in the least because, since I can't afford to alienate big chunks of my audience, it might have enough penetration to use in, oh, 3-5 years? Meh.

That's the main issue. The user base for it will be relatively small for several years. Hopefully many of the people on IE 6 will leapfrog to a HTML 5 browser in the next few years, that would solve a lot of issues.

My gut feeling is that the mobile arena might be where html5 takes off first, with the number of webkit-based browsers out there now (iphone, android).

Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Google HTML5 plugin for IE6 might not alienate your audience.

The Google Chrome Frame plugin is hardly a panacea for old browsers.

I installed Chrome Frame to make Wave work in IE8, and it ended up breaking Google Reader. Hardly a panacea, indeed.

Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

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post #2

Programmer. It doesn't excite me in the least because, since I can't afford to alienate big chunks of my audience, it might have enough penetration to use in, oh, 3-5 years? Meh.

While it might not be ready for general-audience web projects, I'm already using HTML5 and CSS3 features (including app cache and database storage) for some upcoming Android- and iPhone-specific mobile sites, and for a product that embeds WebKit in a non-browser application. Many of the features are also useful for building Flex/AIR/Silverlight-style "rich" apps, for which you could distribute Prism or another site-specific browser.

Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

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Programmer. I think it's great that we're extending the semantics of what we have now, but we're going in the wrong direction. I agree really strongly with John Allsopp that we shouldn't be extending the number of elements available - we should be creating a framework for extensible semantics (using attributes or the like):

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/semanticsinhtml5

Though I agree that canvas, audio and video tags, and web workers are great additions.

Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?

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post #12

Mostly a programmer, and not really. To be honest I would be much happier with better CSS capabilities (better syntax, variables) than video tags and whatnot. I'm not against it obviously, but probably won't be rushing out to learn all the new features.

OK, so what about what the new elements do for CSS? Won't style sheets be more portable now that we have , , etc.?

Unless new features are added to CSS, I suspect and will behave exactly like s do today.
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