Live data from Hacker News

What Twitter Can Be

lowercasecapital.com

141–150 of 174 posts

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#141
I got frustrated trying to follow various conversations on Twitter, so I wrote a tool to do this:

http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/HeliumBalloon...

http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/ListContainin...

http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/Assessment_20...

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#142

of course the author misses the biggest reason twitter sucks. Abuse, fake accounts, and trolling cause more "authentic" real name users to leave every day. Twitter does nothing to punish people who can just grab a picture of you from the net, create and account and start ruining your reputation instantly. And we all know you can't win against a troll unless you out troll them with your own bots. Twitter is the staine…

Good, fair, well-explained banning for abuse policies would be great. Real names would destroy it, because a lot of the most interesting stuff on "Weird Twitter" is from bots, joke accounts, parodies, shared accounts (e.g. @sweden), people who daren't post under their real name, activists, etc.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#143
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this as the biggest problem with Twitter also. Twitter is my favorite app, but it's because I have spent five plus years curating my feed. There is a fundamental problem with the way they onboard new users and this is why so many people don't stick around. The onboarding process asks you to select interests and then recommends people to follow based on those interests. However, they often recommend celebrities…

How did you go about curating your feed? I tried to get into Twitter for a while and ultimately stopped using it. Part of the problem I think is I have kind of a wide range of interests -- sports, software, entrepreneurship, etc. So Twitter probably can't gauge my interests very well. I ended up with a lot of those self-promotion feeds and ESPN writers, but nothing ultimately with substance (except for certain people…

Twitter is like any other social network in that it works better if the people you know personally are using it. The only way to build up a good feed is to explore out through your friends' retweets to find accounts they follow that you also like. Then periodically look at your feed volume as a whole and delete anyone too high-traffic or recently uninteresting.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#144

I got frustrated trying to follow various conversations on Twitter, so I wrote a tool to do this: http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/HeliumBalloon... http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/ListContainin... http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/Assessment_20...

Have you created a web service or app around it? Or is it on Github? A visual conversion graph would indeed help, the Twitter UX isn't really useable to follow up any longer conversation. I assume the Twitter UX has been even slightly degraded a bit over time for A) scalability reasons B) so that users stay longer on Twitter (good for advertisement statistics)

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#145
post #67

This might sound very weird in this day and age, but in my professional life (web developer), Twitter and G+ compete content-wise. And G+ wins easily. Disclaimer: I'm a very light Twitter user. I'm almost surely missing out on features I never bothered to discover. The main advantage G+ has in my eyes is its signal to noise ratio. It seems far better than Twitter's. Again, specifically in my professional world, quite…

There's a single thing G+ can offer that Twitter doesn't: Long posts. The rest? Bullshit. G+ is a closed and broken platform, built by an advertisement company. It made lots of questionable decisions in the past (this very same person has a blocked G+ account - for real name policy violations - that, combined with the amazing Google customer support means that I will never ever be able to rate an app for my Android p…

> G+ is a closed and broken platform, built by an advertisement company.

So just like Twitter then?

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#146
post #124
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's hard to follow when it's thrown in the same chronological time line with other conversations That, at least, shouldn't be the case. Your conversations live in the Notifications tab.

Twitter's conversation handling has improved a lot lately.

Can you give an example?

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#147
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We tried that. It didn't stick. You have to remember that in the early days Twitter and a log of competition. Jaiku, Pownce, Google Buzz, FriendFeed, etc.. Then you had the open source versions: Laconi.ca, Status.net, Friendi.ca, GNU Social, Twister, etc.. Say what you will about Twitter, but it's the only thing that ever got traction or had any sticking power.

How did Twitter get traction and sticking power where the others failed? What was it doing differently?

News people started paying attention early because Twitter was faster than anything else - I think due to the 140-character limit and, believe it or not, dumbphone support. When e.g. an earthquake happened, Twitter was where you'd see it first.

Once the news folks were paying attention some of them started reporting tweets directly and then it snowballed - there's a real positive feedback loop between news/politicians/celebrities - politicians and celebrities use twitter because the newspapers pay attention, and the newspapers pay attention because politicians and celebrities use it.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#148
post #144

I got frustrated trying to follow various conversations on Twitter, so I wrote a tool to do this: http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/HeliumBalloon... http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/ListContainin... http://www.solipsys.co.uk/TwitterConversations/Assessment_20...

Have you created a web service or app around it? Or is it on Github? A visual conversion graph would indeed help, the Twitter UX isn't really useable to follow up any longer conversation. I assume the Twitter UX has been even slightly degraded a bit over time for A) scalability reasons B) so that users stay longer on Twitter (good for advertisement statistics)

Currently it's a complete dog's breakfast of scripts and hacks. People seem to like it, so I might look to package it properly, unless someone else wants to do it.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#149
post #64
post #27

Serious question people, out of the people here that USE Twitter, how much would you pay a month for Twitter, if anything? http://directpoll.com/v?XDVhEtRR2EAlaVw2sOrQkWlBcohF0N2Z I value the service, and am wondering what other people value it at. I will post the results here after set number of people vote. UPDATE Initially I was going to wait a little longer, but after looking at the results from this sample, the…

The users who have the most to gain from Twitter are those with a huge following as they monetise their following outside of Twitter. Be it that they have something to sell or that they are campaigning. I there would find it reasonable to charge accounts that have more than 1000 followers per tweet a small fee.

1000 followers is a pretty miniscule number to be charging.

Re: What Twitter Can Be

#150
post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you created a web service or app around it? Or is it on Github? A visual conversion graph would indeed help, the Twitter UX isn't really useable to follow up any longer conversation. I assume the Twitter UX has been even slightly degraded a bit over time for A) scalability reasons B) so that users stay longer on Twitter (good for advertisement statistics)

Currently it's a complete dog's breakfast of scripts and hacks. People seem to like it, so I might look to package it properly, unless someone else wants to do it.

What are you using to draw the hierarchy?
Post reply on HN