Tmux has left SourceForge • Hacker News Board

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by fletchowns » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:00 AM UTC

caf wrote: post #10

I notice they're using Google Groups for mailing lists - how have people found Google Groups as a technical mailing list provider?

They tried to move the Chef mailing list to Google but it didn't work out. Not sure what they had issues with.

https://www.chef.io/blog/2015/02/04/14389/

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by thomasahle » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:07 AM UTC

inglor wrote: post #16

caf wrote: post #10

I notice they're using Google Groups for mailing lists - how have people found Google Groups as a technical mailing list provider?

I participate in several Google Groups for large projects. I hate it - I find navigation not obvious, discussions aggregated poorly, formatting inconsistent and content not prioritised. I much prefer discourse or even GitHub issues.

Surely those issues are not related to using Google Groups as an email list?

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by raverbashing » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:09 AM UTC

With so many alternatives (even besides GitHub) I wonder why some took so much time to change.

There was Google Code, Landscape, or even self-hosted Git amongst others.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by yAnonymous » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:23 AM UTC

barbs wrote: post #15

edge17 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got malware in the installer for Filezilla on my Mac. They shove malware in all sorts of non-windows stuff these days...

I didn't believe you at first, but I just went to install it and...wow... https://imgur.com/a/o6cSW

FileZilla are one of the few major projects who actually agree to this. Complain about it on their forums and you'll get a ban.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by erikb » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:27 AM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #23

With so many alternatives (even besides GitHub) I wonder why some took so much time to change. There was Google Code, Landscape, or even self-hosted Git amongst others.

Most projects have quite a lot on the table without worrying about hosting all the time. There are bugs you have a hard time fixing or even finding, there are many opinions on how the project should develop (including some real paying customers if you are a successful project), there are people problems in the team. And hosting is something that probably hasn't been touched for years. Maybe the guys who configured it the first time around aren't even on the team any more.

Without big news something so basic is probably not even on the table.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by lvillani » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:33 AM UTC

Tehnix wrote: post #20

est wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

homebrew?

Aren't they on github? https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew

They used to use SourceForge to distribute bottles (binaries), but have switched to Bintray a while ago.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by lvillani » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:37 AM UTC

edge17 wrote: post #7

SwellJoe wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our Webmin website, mailing lists, downloads, and a few other things are still running on SourceForge, for the time being. (I guess it counts as "big", with 3+ million downloads a year, it has always been a top-ten project in its category at SF.net.) We moved revision control to github several years ago. We just haven't had time lately to figure out what to do about the SF.net malware situation, but I can't imagine w…

I got malware in the installer for Filezilla on my Mac. They shove malware in all sorts of non-windows stuff these days...

If you are on a Mac, use homebrew-cask (http://caskroom.io). It's like Brew, but for binaries. Works like a charm and you don't get the malware-injecting wrapper.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by merb » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:40 AM UTC

edge17 wrote: post #7

SwellJoe wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our Webmin website, mailing lists, downloads, and a few other things are still running on SourceForge, for the time being. (I guess it counts as "big", with 3+ million downloads a year, it has always been a top-ten project in its category at SF.net.) We moved revision control to github several years ago. We just haven't had time lately to figure out what to do about the SF.net malware situation, but I can't imagine w…

I got malware in the installer for Filezilla on my Mac. They shove malware in all sorts of non-windows stuff these days...

You should start using Cyberduck, it has a Free Client which pops up a window once you installed the free version (but the popup appears only ONCE and does not contain any malware or advertisments), and a paid version without a popup.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by easytiger » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:52 AM UTC

ghshephard wrote: post #6

As a daily user of Tmux, I can't tell you how happy I am that they've bailed out of there. It was always really odd to me that they weren't either on a self-hosted CVS server somewhere or on GitHub - how all is well in the world.

Mailing lists on google groups, which is fine by me, but annoys a lot of people.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by doiwin » Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 7:55 AM UTC

SourceForge was founded 1999. Now, 16 years later they start to abuse their power. GitHub was launched 2008. Does this mean we can expect GitHub to start abusing our data by 2024?