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Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by HCIdivision17 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #89
HCIdivision17 wrote: post #81

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My two cents on this off-topic discussion... I've never been a part of the goin't'hell group, but in my fairly extensive experience as a young adult in an evangelical religious group, I certainly got the impression that the high touch personal approach was taken as more effective. Most people don't really like doing the door-to-door salesperson routine[0]. But they do it because it seems to work - assuming anyone act…

> It doesn't need to be high, though, since the risk and reward is so high (failure means more lost, success is a life). I think the risk:reward is often seen as higher than it should be even given the "going to hell" assumption, because the failure cost of the attempt is seen as capped at zero because alienation is not considered. This might make sense in a context where your particular door-to-door attempt was very…

Nicely put. This is exactly why there was (is?) quite a lot of effort in finding effective alternatives to the door-to-door method. There's still a lot of people who aren't modern (and the 'no person left behind' policy dictates that you'd continue to do door-to-door to sweep them up), but alternatives are needed.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by petercooper »

littlepooghish wrote: post #44
themodelplumber wrote: post #36

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I was called hakujin once, by a very angry man--"iranai, hakujin ga kirai" was the exact greeting. Granted, I was a Mormon missionary knocking on his door to talk spirituality, but out of the thousands of doors I knocked, that one still stands out as pretty spicy. In comparison, gaijin never seemed that bad.

What makes people like you think it's a good idea to go and bother people in their home about your religious beliefs? Many people must find it frightening or just very annoying. Why subject people to that? It doesn't seem nice, let alone Christian.

Not to comment on the actual benefits (or not) of the process, but the enduring presence of Jehovah's Witnesses (and Mormons) is a sort of natural selection proof that their methods at least work to maintain their population.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by beloch »

Question: Is money considered "dirty" in Japan?

In North America, women keep bills and coins in their purses next to used tissues, and studies have shown that men's wallets have an even higher concentration of bacteria than women's purses. We sit on and, on hot days, sweat on our money all day. Let's face it, the stuff is pretty disgusting. However, if somebody hands you a twenty, your first reaction is usually not, "Oh gross, now I need to wash my hands".

In terms of hygiene, it makes sense for waiters to collect currency on trays so they don't have to wash their hands after every bill is settled (assuming it's a different person's job to take the cash off the tray and put it in the till). Could this be the reason the practice started? The connection between disease and microbes would have existed around the time these trays appeared, so it's possible a crusading doctor or someone similar convinced vendors to use these trays.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by spanktar »

mml wrote: post #18

Department stores in the U.S. (At least in Minneapolis) used to ferry payment via baskets on wires from the clerk up to an accounting room where the money was counted, change made, and delivered back to the customer via the same contraption.

I tried to implement a system like this once, with the goal being to reduce the amount of equipment and clutter on the service counter, but ran into issues of trust. I learned very quickly that if you remove the cash from sight of the customer (even by turning around or having a cash register under the counter) you invite potential fraud from the cashier or the customer. The cashier is able to skim, or the customer to claim they gave a different amount if the money disappears, even briefly. I gave up on it and kept the standard "customer-facing register" setup.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by kaybe »

danbruc wrote: post #77
facepalm wrote: post #75

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I always assumed their purpose is to minimize touching of the hands between vendor and customer.

That may of course also play a role especially when handling unpackaged food but then again the money goes through both hands anyway. Most of the time I see people counting the money when they place it there coin by coin. And it makes putting the change back into the wallet easier because you don't end up with a hand full of bills and coins.

It is also a lot easier to swipe a couple of coins out and not drop any compared to the flat table.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by themodelplumber »

DanBC wrote: post #78
littlepooghish wrote: post #44

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What makes people like you think it's a good idea to go and bother people in their home about your religious beliefs? Many people must find it frightening or just very annoying. Why subject people to that? It doesn't seem nice, let alone Christian.

It strengthens their own beliefs and it also will rarely brings new converts. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11257637/Religi... > Rachel Underhill, 39, a florist who lives in Peacehaven, East Sussex, was brought up as a Jehovah’s Witness before leaving the religion in her twenties [...] > We weren’t allowed to make friends with anyone “worldly”, which meant anyone who wasn’t a Jehovah’s Witness, or do a…

Well, that particular former Jehovah's Witness's experience doesn't match my experience with my own religion. In fact I grew up with JW friends, so I'm not sure it's even representative of their religion.

> This is why you might see me arguing against mocking religious people - it does nothing to convert them and may just strengthen their beliefs.

It's a good idea, and the same principle really applies to any person or group, regarding any framework, religious or not. From atheists to zookeepers.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by minikomi »

Lived in Japan for 8 years and have worked part time in cafes .. The training I got was to leave the money in the tray until you confer the change to the customer. It prevents things like "hang on! I gave you 5000 not 1000!" - the money paid stays in plain sight until the transaction is complete. Shop staff almost never put the money away before you get your change.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by gergles »

twblalock wrote: post #7
ZanderEarth32 wrote: post #4

Was just in Japan and encountered these everywhere. We knew to use them from our research prior to the trip. Initially I was under the impression it was to prevent the spread of germs, but that didn't really line up because the money comes into contact with the cashier's hand regardless if the tray is used or not. I guess it could help reduce the amount of small hand-to-hand contact that is sometimes experienced when…

It also prevents coins being dropped while passed from hand to hand. In a county with coins up to about the $5 equivalent, that's pretty useful.

Just FYI there's been a huge devaluation of the yen/strengthening of the dollar. ¥500=$4.

Re: Japanese Change Trays

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Post by vmlinuz »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #59
TorKlingberg wrote: post #56

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Japan though, has almost no tipping culture.

But, every sushi bar has a tip jar? Or only in America

A few years ago, I was almost forcibly prevented from leaving a Hawaiian burger joint in Nagano by a waitress who was concerned that I'd accidentally left some money on the table. I tried to explain that it was a tip, but they were quite unhappy to let us leave until we'd taken a couple of little candy canes - it was Christmas - from the display in their window...

Tipping is not a thing in Japan, generally. I've read that it can be considered faintly insulting, given the service culture - you're implying the recipient wouldn't have done their job properly unless you gave them extra money.

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