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Re: Transatomic Power

#61
Thorium msrs could be a panacea for humanity - but they won't get adopted, because nuclear weapons aren't a byproduct, and that's a drawback in the eyes of our bellicose political classes.

Edit: you're welcome to downvote the truth, but it won't change it.

Re: Transatomic Power

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post #10

So ok, the website is cool and the technology is said to be something like 99.9999% better. This might be a stupid question but I'm no nuclear engineer not a specialist about chemistry or physics but I wonder why a such "beautiful" idea would not be already used. I've read the related wikipedia article about Molten Salt Reactors and I understand there are several problems about the technology: mostly corrosion and em…

Because nuclear weapons aren't a byproduct of this kind of reactor, and that renders it useless in the eyes of politician-warmongers.

Re: Transatomic Power

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post #10

So ok, the website is cool and the technology is said to be something like 99.9999% better. This might be a stupid question but I'm no nuclear engineer not a specialist about chemistry or physics but I wonder why a such "beautiful" idea would not be already used. I've read the related wikipedia article about Molten Salt Reactors and I understand there are several problems about the technology: mostly corrosion and em…

Probably the same reason Germany shutdown its power plants after Fukushima. Despite Fukushima being a huge success story [1] some people are scared, some unthinking, almost all irrational and unable to handle probability at all. Nuclear power seems magical and shares a word with scary weapons. It's not "natural" for mediocre definitions of natural. 1: Seriously. Fukushima did everything wrong. Huge earthquake and tsu…

People who believe that nuclear reactors are so great and safe can probably save a lot of money by renting property next to a nuclear reactor. Have you done so? Would you like a reactor to be built next to your house?

Re: Transatomic Power

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably the same reason Germany shutdown its power plants after Fukushima. Despite Fukushima being a huge success story [1] some people are scared, some unthinking, almost all irrational and unable to handle probability at all. Nuclear power seems magical and shares a word with scary weapons. It's not "natural" for mediocre definitions of natural. 1: Seriously. Fukushima did everything wrong. Huge earthquake and tsu…

People who believe that nuclear reactors are so great and safe can probably save a lot of money by renting property next to a nuclear reactor. Have you done so? Would you like a reactor to be built next to your house?

I have actually lived half a kilometer away from a nuclear reactor. I didn't think twice about it. Itwas a small research reactor at a university campus, of course, but nevertheless, the reason I wouldn't want to live right next to a big energy production reactor is not that I would be afraid it blows up; it's that the plant is a very big building that involves a substantial amount of people, materials and security measures nearby.

That is why it makes sense to build the reactors slightly away from population centers. Not to protect the population, but to avoid annoying it with the presence of a huge energy factory.

Re: Transatomic Power

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post #10

So ok, the website is cool and the technology is said to be something like 99.9999% better. This might be a stupid question but I'm no nuclear engineer not a specialist about chemistry or physics but I wonder why a such "beautiful" idea would not be already used. I've read the related wikipedia article about Molten Salt Reactors and I understand there are several problems about the technology: mostly corrosion and em…

Probably the same reason Germany shutdown its power plants after Fukushima. Despite Fukushima being a huge success story [1] some people are scared, some unthinking, almost all irrational and unable to handle probability at all. Nuclear power seems magical and shares a word with scary weapons. It's not "natural" for mediocre definitions of natural. 1: Seriously. Fukushima did everything wrong. Huge earthquake and tsu…

Agreed. BTW my old boss said the same after Chernobyl: he used to be worried about nuclear safety, but after Chernobyl, where everything went as much wrong as it can go - you have an unsafe type of reactor, incompetent staff blows it up, the accident is covered and evacuations are delayed, etc - and still the death toll is much smaller than the impact of coal mining, which is the practical alternative picked by e.g. Germany after Fukushima.

Re: Transatomic Power

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Doesn't it take a while for people to die or see effects from radiation exposure (unless it's extreme?). Is there a reason to suspect that we won't see problems from what happened? Also having land uninhabitable for thousands of years weighs pretty heavily even if the risk of failure is low.

They originally said it'd be a few years, but the JP government is on behind, so it might take longer to decontaminate. I don't think anyone is talking more than a decade or few. Countries sell land, so think of it that way, at worst. The clean up is also super expensive. And, over 1000 people died from evacuation-related issues. I guess that's just a factor when you move older people around, for any reason. So, yes…

> over 1000 people died from evacuation-related issues.

As if the fact that a very very large tsunami hit a densely populated area did not have an impact.

Of course, a lot of people were killed by Fukushima - due to the shutdown of other nuclear reactors, which necessitated reducing electricity consumption, i.e. turning off A/C in buildings, effectively killing lots of old and weak people.

Re: Transatomic Power

#68
post #45

While it's neat to see more companies jumping on board, what they're looking at isn't really revolutionary, despite the polished PR on the website. There are lots of companies, research organisations etc working on molten salt reactors. Lots of them, including Oak Ridge National Lab ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2015/01/07/nuclear-po... ). On the surface, this seems kind of like launching an IaaS cloud ser…

The more the merrier, imo. If they can do a better job at PR, marketing and "branding" than the more stilted organisations doing the same thing, then they can speed up the changing of public perceptions and speed up eventual adoption.

Re: Transatomic Power

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post #67

We had a fast breeder reactor here in France before, creating energy from nuclear waste. Oil/"green" lobbies made it to close: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superph%C3%A9nix EDIT: And also terrorists and molten sodium.

IANAS but it appears that Superphenix used liquid sodium as a coolant, whereby Transatomic is proposing a molten salt (not sodium) fuel.

Re: Transatomic Power

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably the same reason Germany shutdown its power plants after Fukushima. Despite Fukushima being a huge success story [1] some people are scared, some unthinking, almost all irrational and unable to handle probability at all. Nuclear power seems magical and shares a word with scary weapons. It's not "natural" for mediocre definitions of natural. 1: Seriously. Fukushima did everything wrong. Huge earthquake and tsu…

People who believe that nuclear reactors are so great and safe can probably save a lot of money by renting property next to a nuclear reactor. Have you done so? Would you like a reactor to be built next to your house?

Would you rather live right next to a coal plant? They release a lot more radioactivity into the air that a nuclear power plant. Plus, you know, all the other pollutants that they blow into the atmosphere.
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