Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

Post by blazingfrog2 » Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 9:00 PM UTC

cactusface wrote: post #143

halo wrote: post #128

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>Wishlist: tmux, emacs, vi, netcat, shell option for vi-mode, rc-file with preferences, ncurses library, something simpler than curses, zip and unzip No thankyou. I can certainly understand including SSH support, but I don't want what is pretty much the only remaining viable non-Unix platform to start bundling horribly dated and clunky Unix-like commands and bloated GNU tools.

regedit would like to have coffee with you.

Post by 72deluxe » Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #134

cturner wrote: post #86

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Fair. But I couldn't target my crappy roguelikes at cygwin - requires complicated third-party installs. I ran cygwin-with-ssh heavily for a while in 2003. It was a hell of a thing to get it going. Then I had trouble getting it to work on a new computer and gave up. Shouldn't be surprised that it got good again.

> complicated third-party installs Wait, isn't that nearly everything you ever install on Windows? Not complicated per se, but everything is third party and not signed by people maintaining Windows (as with most GNU/Linux distributions).

Post by 72deluxe » Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 9:03 PM UTC

e40 wrote: post #42

eropple wrote: post #31

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A VPN with sshd exposed only inside the private network is a much smarter way of handling remote access. (But it's initially harder, so lots of people don't do it.)

You're just trading sshd bugs for VPN bugs, in that case. Which are more likely? From what I know, I think I'll put my lot in with sshd. Perhaps I'm not well informed, though. Also, sshd + fwknop (port knocking) is a very secure combo, IMO.

Post by joshuapants » Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 9:04 PM UTC

joshstrange wrote: post #119

rogeryu wrote: post #55

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I moved away in 1999 to the Mac, and because of the incredible expensive Macs nowadays, I'm probably going to make another move, to Ubuntu. Still, Steve Jobs was not an easy guy either. I don't know if he would mock an employee for having an Android phone? Not unlikely given how anti-Android he was.

VERY good point and honestly one that I hadn't thought of. I'm not aware of any publicised cases of Jobs calling out an Android phone but I would believe it, he was an asshole. IIRC he was so anti-android b/c he saw Android as a blatant rip-off of iOS (not weighing in here on either side). As far as cost of macs I think it's still worth it even if you want to run Ubuntu as your OS b/c they hold their value better tha…

Post by 72deluxe » Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 9:07 PM UTC

graffitici wrote: post #166

I wish Windows just became a POSIX compliant OS. I think that would solve a lot of these smaller issues in an elegant way. Apple did a very smart job with Mac OS X, to the point where even I switched to a Mac after having Linux for so many years. It's incredible how I can install packages using homebrew and friends.. Come on Microsoft, go all the way!