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Mapping the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Apartment in Every U.S. State

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Re: Mapping the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Apartment in Every U.S. State

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Am I the only one that doesn't see the value of assessing this at the state level? Given the drastic variability of rents within states, this seems like a useless (not to mention misleading) unit of analysis.

Even worse, this kind of sensationalism around rising rents seems to be bringing the rent control zombie back to life in a number of cities. What a disaster that would be.

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I wonder how much California and New York averages are bumped by due to places like San Francisco and New York City.

Yes, "by state" seems like a terrible way to do this. By county, or some division around that size, would make a lot more sense.

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I wonder how much California and New York averages are bumped by due to places like San Francisco and New York City.

Keep in mind that in NYC there are very high priced apartments, but there are also a LOT of low income housing/slums/projects where rent is dirt cheap, it's just that people live in terrible conditions compared to what that same rent could get you elsewhere.

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The article doesn't address why the hourly wage for 2-bedroom is relevant in relation to say, a 1-bedroom, studio, or mansion. Looking briefly at the BLS data, it seems that there are about equal numbers of single- and double-earner households. It's not clear to me that a single-earner household should expect to be able to rent a two bedroom apartment.

How dare single parent families expect to live somewhere decent.

This chart wouldn't take into account the various subsidies you would get if you were actually making $13/hr as a single parent -- housing assistance, food stamps, medicaid, welfare itself, etc. The effective income -- after all assistance is accounted for -- is going be far higher than the quoted hourly wage.

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Being from Arkansas, I always thought our housing prices were crazy low. When I was in university there, I paid something like $450/mo for a two bedroom, 1000 square foot (92 square meters) apartment. Then I moved to Seattle and pay 6x as much per square foot. That's to be expected, I guess. Seattle is much more desirable than Arkansas.

I am also from Arkansas! I am planning on moving back in the next few years as my remote work jobs solidify. Information like this really hammers that point home. If you have family/friends in Arkansas, it's a cheap way to live with a fairly reasonable quality of life - at least the NW corner where I grew up.

Re: Mapping the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Apartment in Every U.S. State

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The article doesn't address why the hourly wage for 2-bedroom is relevant in relation to say, a 1-bedroom, studio, or mansion. Looking briefly at the BLS data, it seems that there are about equal numbers of single- and double-earner households. It's not clear to me that a single-earner household should expect to be able to rent a two bedroom apartment.

How dare single parent families expect to live somewhere decent.

A single parent would also be getting child support, making it a double income.

Re: Mapping the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Apartment in Every U.S. State

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This sort of stuff rubs me the wrong way. I live about 20 minutes outside of Pittsburgh. When I graduated college 6 years ago, I held down a restaurant job while doing an internship that would eventually lead to my first full-time job in my field. I had a roommate who worked at a hotel. We found a two-bedroom apartment (a house split into 3 units) that was going for $425/month plus utilities. Because we split, I had…

Well said, I was trying to find a way to say this without sounding like a dick, you did a very good job!

Re: Mapping the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Apartment in Every U.S. State

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post #13

I wonder how much California and New York averages are bumped by due to places like San Francisco and New York City.

Keep in mind that in NYC there are very high priced apartments, but there are also a LOT of low income housing/slums/projects where rent is dirt cheap, it's just that people live in terrible conditions compared to what that same rent could get you elsewhere.

That's actually another good question - does NYCHA and other low-income housing push the average down as well? I'm not sure what it takes to qualify to get rent assistance; seems like it's unreasonable to compare a luxury apartment on the Upper East Side to my apartment in Hamilton Heights to a low-income housing project.

Re: Mapping the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Apartment in Every U.S. State

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post #15

Being from Arkansas, I always thought our housing prices were crazy low. When I was in university there, I paid something like $450/mo for a two bedroom, 1000 square foot (92 square meters) apartment. Then I moved to Seattle and pay 6x as much per square foot. That's to be expected, I guess. Seattle is much more desirable than Arkansas.

I am also from Arkansas! I am planning on moving back in the next few years as my remote work jobs solidify. Information like this really hammers that point home. If you have family/friends in Arkansas, it's a cheap way to live with a fairly reasonable quality of life - at least the NW corner where I grew up.

The NW corner is where my apartment was (Fayetteville, University of Arkansas).

Central Arkansas is more expensive, but still extremely affordable compared to the rest of the country. My sister just bought a 3 bedroom house in a good neighborhood in Little Rock for < $150K. It would easily cost $600K+ here in Seattle.

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