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Dear Paul
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Re: Dear Paul
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well he's writing that way. Did you even read the post? He insults the entire HN community for stuff that most people can't even recall or find evidence of. Also, if you read the post it sounds like he's not a very active user. He is likely completely disconnected from how this community works.
He has nearly 9000 karma which you don't get by being completely disconnected from how this community works.
> He has nearly 9000 karma which you don't get by being completely disconnected from how this community works.
Sure you can. Karma is mostly an indicator of tending to post things that are popular, and there's a pretty big bonus to that if you happen to have name recognition as a popular figure. If you're a popular figure and your natural inclination in writing is in a direction which would be generally well-received on HN, you can get lots of karma whether or not you have much understanding of the community.
(Of course, if you wanted to maximize your karma, developing an understanding of the community would help. But that understanding isn't a necessary precondition to getting a high karma score.)
Re: Dear Paul
#163Lets look at some of Zed Shaw's comments.
I hate abusive fucks, and right now HN is so abusive and out of control that someone has to do something about it.
I've just looked at his blog and it is full of insults and slurs about other people.
He's a hypocrite.
Currently the most popular way to slander someone on HN is to create a “throwaway” or “anon” account, say what you want, then slink off into the shadows like a weak limp dicked little loser.
I mean fuck man we all know HN “hackers” flat refuse to buy anything except porn, lube, and prosthetic dildos to compensate for their teeny tiny weenies.
Is it that your balls are so incredibly dirty that you periodically need to have a bunch of grown men come slob away at your scrotum every demo day?
Would I have to cost you millions before you decided it wasn’t worth it to run a shitty 1990s forum site just to listen to a bunch of grown men complain about another grown man’s choice of hobby while they jerk their tiny puds at fake tits MILF porn?
He loves to be macho and call people names.
You may be chuckling now, but I’d like to point out that one of the reasons most of your moronic baby penis followers hate me is because I wiped out epic amounts of Ruby on Rails with one blog post full of truth.
I also have two books that bring in more traffic in a month than probably all the traffic your bottom 80% startups bring in during a whole year.
What if I started offering to advise new coders, the millions I teach a year (yes, millions Paul) to avoid all of your company’s startups?
He's a narcissist.
I’m not physically afraid of the idiots there. I bet most of them start breathing hard when their fingers break 100WPM on their fancy “hacker” sticker coated MacBooks.
From another post of his: I’ll add one more thing to the people reading this: I mean business when I say I’ll take anyone on who wants to fight me. You think you can take me, I’ll pay to rent a boxing ring and beat your fucking ass legally. Remember that I’ve studied enough martial arts to be deadly even though I’m old, and I don’t give a fuck if I kick your mother fucking ass or you kick mine. You don’t like what I’ve said, then write something in reply but fuck you if you think you’re gonna talk to me like you can hurt me.
I’ll never be afraid of some pilsner fresh fat fuck who eats donut hamburgers and only gets exercise when he plays World of Warcraft on a DDR pad.
He's a thug.
Because after 7 years of abuse I’ve had to adjust my life around the raving fucking idiots on HN and the rampant abusive shit they say.
That would happen in any community he participated in.
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I don't know why people like a person like this. He seems to be poison to most people around him. A person who will beat you into disability if you say anything that doesn't support him or you look at him the wrong way.
He may have written some things that are moderately popular, but still his behavior is harmful. A murderer does not get excused because of the work they do.
So I still don't get it. Why do people like him?
Re: Dear Paul
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
We don't remove the comment scores actually :) For the first 10 days of a comment's life, HN's API always returns 0: so we index 0. After 10 days, comment scores are visible and should be updated in the index.
The API stopped returning scores ~ 10 months ago: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:redox_&sort=byDate&prefix&p... ETA: Perhaps incident to this incident: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8604586
Actually, it probably happened when Algolia transitioned from a custom feed (or whatever was going on) to the official api.
Re: Dear Paul
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
The API stopped returning scores ~ 10 months ago: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:redox_&sort=byDate&prefix&p... ETA: Perhaps incident to this incident: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8604586
Actually, it probably happened when Algolia transitioned from a custom feed (or whatever was going on) to the official api. http://blog.ycombinator.com/hacker-news-api
Yes indeed, I think so.
Re: Dear Paul
#166> I mean fuck man we all know HN “hackers” flat refuse to buy anything except porn, lube, and prosthetic dildos to compensate for their teeny tiny weenies.
I feel slandered. Should I write a post and threaten the OP to cause millions of damages to him until he closes his blog?
Re: Dear Paul
#167> I hate abusive fucks And yet he's sitting there saying things like "[HN] is a place for men with tiny little mosquito penises". I once heard a piece of advise (by Caitlin Moran): you should never write angrily. You may be angry, but don't write angrily. People tend to react with the same emotions, if you come across angry then people will tend to respond with anger. The guy is obviously angry and upset, but its com…
Sounds like a recipe for the sterile PR speak we're surrounded by. If he's angry, why shouldn't he write angry? And the preoccupation with swearing is just puritanical nonsense.
I dunno, because I don't have a tiny little mosquito penis?
Re: Dear Paul
#168> I hate abusive fucks And yet he's sitting there saying things like "[HN] is a place for men with tiny little mosquito penises". I once heard a piece of advise (by Caitlin Moran): you should never write angrily. You may be angry, but don't write angrily. People tend to react with the same emotions, if you come across angry then people will tend to respond with anger. The guy is obviously angry and upset, but its com…
Sounds like a recipe for the sterile PR speak we're surrounded by. If he's angry, why shouldn't he write angry? And the preoccupation with swearing is just puritanical nonsense.
> If he's angry, why shouldn't he write angry?
Well, among other reasons, because excessive incivility and outright slander when you are accusing people of incivility and slander kind of makes it hard to take you seriously.
But then again, its also kind of a repeated pattern with Zed and communities he has been involved in, so its not all that surprising. (Which, again, might be a speaker-specific reason to avoid it; instead of attracting attention to the subsequent message, it might be dismissed as "oh, so its HN's turn now, big surprise".)
Re: Dear Paul
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
How many little dick insults before you just consider the author to be inflammatory and small-minded? If this weren't for someone with a big name, it would have been dead on arrival.
Unfortunately, the RoR “community” and Zed have a history when it comes to penis-related insults. There was a time when you could add anyone you liked to a github project & they couldn’t block you, so a bunch of developers thought it would be funny to add Zed's github account to a project to draw ascii penises. Every time he’d remove himself, they’d add him to another one & so on. Puerile? Yup. Also, possibly career…
> Yes, it’s easy for us to say “he should be the bigger person & not respond in kind” but on the flip side, we haven’t been on the receiving end of this kind of abusive behaviour.
But he's not responding in kind, because the people he is attacking "in kind" aren't the people who attacked him. And so, insofar as Zed's abuse is "in kind" to the unrelated-to-the-issue-complained-about abuse he has previously received, we (as in the HN community) have, in fact, been on the receiving end of that kind of abusive behavior from Zed.
Some people abusing you doesn't provide you license to abuse other people while complaining about how you hate abusive people.
Re: Dear Paul
#170Is HN a thing that can be abusive? This is a serious question. Don't say yes or no yet. As far as I understand it: people are abusive. Places, or groups, can only allow for abuse, perhaps systematically, but cannot abuse anyone by themselves. On the other hand, places, or groups, can prevent abuse themselves. (I'll get to that in a moment.) In this case, specific people choose to act badly toward Mr. Shaw, anonymousl…
I think you've answered your own question, tbh. A site becomes abusive by tolerating abusers. If someone really has it in for zed or pg or whomever, they'll find a way to say it. HN could be more moderated/less tolerant of abuse/disallow throwaways, and those people will just go elsewhere and continue to say what they want. Personally I think zed is wanting to throw the baby out with the bath water, but that's easy f…
> HN could be more moderated/less tolerant of abuse/disallow throwaways, and those people will just go elsewhere and continue to say what they want.
Not necessarily true. Imagine, specifically, if HN acted in a "honeypot vigilante" manner: allowing these people to think they're getting away with it, and then privately finding them and doing things to them (sending defamation suits?) that have the effect of stopping them from trolling anywhere ever again.