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Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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Well, I can't source it via a link at the moment (I'm looking) but I have had multiple face-to-face conversations with people who have told me that Rand Paul has been invited to NSA 5-6 times, and refuses to visit.

Ignorance is truly bliss.

Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

#12

Well, I can't source it via a link at the moment (I'm looking) but I have had multiple face-to-face conversations with people who have told me that Rand Paul has been invited to NSA 5-6 times, and refuses to visit. Ignorance is truly bliss.

Because visiting the NSA would enlighten him in any way?

Critics of the organization would likely be granted zero visibility into their decision making process. Just look how they have treated their own high level employees who voiced concern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake).

It would be a waste of a day. Maybe he could have met with Clapper - the man that perjured himself before Congress. Or Keith Alexander - the profiteer who is making millions off surveillance tech he was developing while head of the NSA. ( his office.

If anything, a visit to the NSA would bring negative connotations in the public's eye.

Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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post #12

Well, I can't source it via a link at the moment (I'm looking) but I have had multiple face-to-face conversations with people who have told me that Rand Paul has been invited to NSA 5-6 times, and refuses to visit. Ignorance is truly bliss.

Because visiting the NSA would enlighten him in any way? Critics of the organization would likely be granted zero visibility into their decision making process. Just look how they have treated their own high level employees who voiced concern ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake ). It would be a waste of a day. Maybe he could have met with Clapper - the man that perjured himself before Congress. Or Kei…

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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Well, I can't source it via a link at the moment (I'm looking) but I have had multiple face-to-face conversations with people who have told me that Rand Paul has been invited to NSA 5-6 times, and refuses to visit. Ignorance is truly bliss.

Anything he could find out from a visit is entirely irrelevant to the constitutional issues at question.

Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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Well, I can't source it via a link at the moment (I'm looking) but I have had multiple face-to-face conversations with people who have told me that Rand Paul has been invited to NSA 5-6 times, and refuses to visit. Ignorance is truly bliss.

What do you expect him to learn from such a visit?

Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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I'm as liberal as they come but I will be voting for Rand Paul if he ends up with the Republican nomination. This is one issue where I will be a one issue voter.

Bernie Sanders seems like a great candidate, but I fear he is too reasonable and conciliatory to do what is necessary to properly reign in the entrenched interests of the military/intelligence industrial complex. At this point it seems like nothing short of a campaign of slash-and-burn against these agencies will get the job done, and it's going to take someone as "nutty" as a Paul to do it.

Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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I'm as liberal as they come but I will be voting for Rand Paul if he ends up with the Republican nomination. This is one issue where I will be a one issue voter. Bernie Sanders seems like a great candidate, but I fear he is too reasonable and conciliatory to do what is necessary to properly reign in the entrenched interests of the military/intelligence industrial complex. At this point it seems like nothing short of…

Bernie Sanders does appear much more consistent than Hillary; and he unlike Hillary has talked of dismantling the NSA. I'm afraid he won't make the Democratic nomination.

The other republicans seem like a bunch of idiots. It's likely that Hillary will come to power. She does seem to have the money for it.

Re: Rand Paul: 'I will force the expiration' of portions of Patriot Act

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I've been waiting years to see someone like him running for presidency, but I lack experience in Politics to determine if he could have a shot.

He's got a shot in the way anyone who declares a candidacy and meets the legal requirements has a shot. If you're talking about odds of getting the nomination (let alone winning the general), then he's got basicly zero chance.
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