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Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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It takes planning and plenty of work, but I have almost completed migration to my own domain and away from gmail. I wish I had done it sooner, everyone needs to make their own place on the net. No need to be a serf.

Are you hosting your own email server?

and if you are rolling your own are you having any issues with spf or spam flags?

Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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Raise your hand if you feel like this is an unwarranted breach of privacy, but you have a gmail account and heavily depend on Google services. Raises own hand. I was so trusting and willing to give away my emails to Google when I was a kid (despite being fully aware of their intentions), but now, even though privacy infringements from all these other companies disturb me, I'm still a hypocritical sheep in Google's he…

For most people it is just search and email. Replacing email is easy, but search is harder since only Google has really accurate and relevant results( besides other giants that also snoop ). The best way to replace search is to use engines that respect privacy and if you need relevant results, those that convey Google's results to you.

Use https://search.disconnect.me/ .

You can use Bing, DuckDuckgo, Google or Yahoo as the search engine. "We don’t collect any of your personal info, including your IP address, other than information you voluntarily provide." See https://disconnect.me/privacy .

Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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post #42

Raise your hand if you feel like this is an unwarranted breach of privacy, but you have a gmail account and heavily depend on Google services. Raises own hand. I was so trusting and willing to give away my emails to Google when I was a kid (despite being fully aware of their intentions), but now, even though privacy infringements from all these other companies disturb me, I'm still a hypocritical sheep in Google's he…

For most people it is just search and email. Replacing email is easy, but search is harder since only Google has really accurate and relevant results( besides other giants that also snoop ). The best way to replace search is to use engines that respect privacy and if you need relevant results, those that convey Google's results to you.

Replacing email should be easy, but a surprising number of people, even tech people (which makes no sense at all as they should know better), not only use Gmail for their email storage but also for their email address, and so can never entirely extricate themselves from Gmail.

Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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My solution is to install as few apps as possible. Go to mobile website, from browser menu select "Add to Home Screen". I get fewer features that way but fewer distractions.

> I get fewer features that way but fewer distractions.

Not necessarily. I use the Facebook web app because I'm not crippled from using Messenger as I am on their main app. Who needs the notifications anyway?

And seriously, why does Facebook need to be a >30 MB download? It's just a frontend pulling from an API.

Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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post #42

Raise your hand if you feel like this is an unwarranted breach of privacy, but you have a gmail account and heavily depend on Google services. Raises own hand. I was so trusting and willing to give away my emails to Google when I was a kid (despite being fully aware of their intentions), but now, even though privacy infringements from all these other companies disturb me, I'm still a hypocritical sheep in Google's he…

> despite being fully aware of their intentions

Those being....? Google earns its revenue by selling ads. They make more money when they show you ads that are likely to earn your business for the advertiser. Is it really so horrendous for Google to use information about you to show you ads for products you are more likely to purchase? Or are you concerned about something else?

Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you hosting your own email server?

and if you are rolling your own are you having any issues with spf or spam flags?

I run my own email server [1] using Postfix. I use greylisting [2][3] and it easily stops 50% of all spam. I looked into adding SPF, but decided against it as the effective rate was too low [4]. I've also recently looked at RBL [5] and while there were a few false positives (enough that I decided against immediately adding it) what it did catch was quite impressive [6].

Oddly enough, if I simply drop email addressed to my domain registration email [7] that is NOT from my registrar, then the amount of spam I receive would drop about 70%.

But frankly, with the greylisting, the spam that does get through is easy enough to deal with. And I'm the only person who uses my domain for email.

[1] I started in the web hosting business in '96 or '97 so this is pretty much old hat for me.

[2] Definition: http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/

[3] Software I use: http://www.x-grey.com/

[4] http://boston.conman.org/2015/04/12.1

[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL

[6] http://boston.conman.org/2015/05/11.1

[7] Yeah, I don't bother with the privacy settings on the domain registration.

Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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post #42

Raise your hand if you feel like this is an unwarranted breach of privacy, but you have a gmail account and heavily depend on Google services. Raises own hand. I was so trusting and willing to give away my emails to Google when I was a kid (despite being fully aware of their intentions), but now, even though privacy infringements from all these other companies disturb me, I'm still a hypocritical sheep in Google's he…

For most people it is just search and email. Replacing email is easy, but search is harder since only Google has really accurate and relevant results( besides other giants that also snoop ). The best way to replace search is to use engines that respect privacy and if you need relevant results, those that convey Google's results to you.

Search is the easier: DDG. I've been using it all-but-exclusively for nearly three years solid (and another couple on-and-off before). I do still make use of some Google special collections (Scholar, Books), and for time-bound searches (really wish DDG would support those).

Email took me a while longer to sort, but while I have a primary personal account somewhere safe, anonymous / pseudonymous accounts were harder to provision. Yahoo and Microsoft both throw barriers (phone confirmation required) in the way. I ended up with an inbox.com account, like that.

Re: “We are only collecting the list of applications you have installed.”

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post #42

Raise your hand if you feel like this is an unwarranted breach of privacy, but you have a gmail account and heavily depend on Google services. Raises own hand. I was so trusting and willing to give away my emails to Google when I was a kid (despite being fully aware of their intentions), but now, even though privacy infringements from all these other companies disturb me, I'm still a hypocritical sheep in Google's he…

For most people it is just search and email. Replacing email is easy, but search is harder since only Google has really accurate and relevant results( besides other giants that also snoop ). The best way to replace search is to use engines that respect privacy and if you need relevant results, those that convey Google's results to you.

I really like using https://swisscows.ch their search results are quite good and they respect my privacy.

EDIT: https://swisscows.ch/agreement

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