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RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

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Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#61

The fact Slack is a thing is evidence of how horrible dominant IM companies are at their business.

They're more interested building their own little walled gardens. If they spent as much effort improving their products as they did breaking integrations then there wouldn't be a Slack.

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

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post #24

So you set this up and you use it for a few hours and everyone on your team is like hey this is kinda cool. * a month or so passes * Now everyone is invested in the tool and since the expectations have been set by things like Slack they expect integrations to work flawlessly, search to be infinitely fast, 99% uptime, Google OpenID authentication, and a slew of other features and before you know it you have someone sp…

What if you can't run slack because your company doesn't allow chat services that are externally hosted? EDIT: This seems like something that never gets brought up in any discussion of Slack. No company I have worked for would have allowed an externally hosted chat service. Have I just been unlucky, or is it just the people in my situation never speak up?

Unlucky. We used Slack at the last three companies I worked for.

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#63
post #57

Does the demo work for anyone? Would like to check it out, but does not load, just hangs.

It loads now. However, can't login as it demands an email. For something like a demo, this seems a little overkill.

For something I might host for my employees or people I intend on collaborating with I guess it makes sense.

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#64
post #24

So you set this up and you use it for a few hours and everyone on your team is like hey this is kinda cool. * a month or so passes * Now everyone is invested in the tool and since the expectations have been set by things like Slack they expect integrations to work flawlessly, search to be infinitely fast, 99% uptime, Google OpenID authentication, and a slew of other features and before you know it you have someone sp…

What if you can't run slack because your company doesn't allow chat services that are externally hosted? EDIT: This seems like something that never gets brought up in any discussion of Slack. No company I have worked for would have allowed an externally hosted chat service. Have I just been unlucky, or is it just the people in my situation never speak up?

Lots of enterprise companies demand full control over all things. Its not uncommon at all.

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#66
post #24

So you set this up and you use it for a few hours and everyone on your team is like hey this is kinda cool. * a month or so passes * Now everyone is invested in the tool and since the expectations have been set by things like Slack they expect integrations to work flawlessly, search to be infinitely fast, 99% uptime, Google OpenID authentication, and a slew of other features and before you know it you have someone sp…

What if you can't run slack because your company doesn't allow chat services that are externally hosted? EDIT: This seems like something that never gets brought up in any discussion of Slack. No company I have worked for would have allowed an externally hosted chat service. Have I just been unlucky, or is it just the people in my situation never speak up?

It's not uncommon, but it's uncommon around here.

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#67

There's a link to an "online demo" but then it asks for your login info or for you to register. That isn't really a demo then, is it?

That's the brick wall I hit too. I'm not giving them my email address for a demo, and I'm not logging in with a social media service. I suppose I could download it myself and try it out that way, but that's a ton of effort for something I may not even want in the end. Rocket.Chat devs, if you're listening, please provide a way to demo the program without giving up real information.

+1

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

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post #39
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any sensible, albeit less popular, modern equivalents to XMPP?

matrix ( https://matrix.org/ ) is a more modern messaging protocol than XMPP; it revolves around HTTP and JSON because it's the most logical today the way XMPP is based on XML because it was the most logical at the time. Let's hope they can achieve something here !

I also wanted to come in here and promote matrix. You can use it internally, or you can federate it. It takes a lot of concepts from XMPP, and is essentially json over http with an "eventually consistent" synchronization between clients and servers.

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you are running a business, you use tools to make your life easier. The reason I pay for Slack is precisely so I _don't_ have to push fixes upstream. Tools are a means to solving a problem. Something being open source is not by itself a plus. I don't want to be developing a chat client so I can use it, I want to build my own fucking company.

So...don't use it. Honestly, there are other people here that will see this link and go "hey I want to add this feature in this" and the tool becomes better. Once it does I am sure you're gonna come back and leech on it.

OSS isn't for just the contributors.
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