Kotlin M12 is out

#1

Post by orangy » Fri, May 29, 2015, 2:42 PM UTC

Kotlin M12 is out
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Re: Kotlin M12 is out

#2

Post by jan1021488 » Fri, May 29, 2015, 3:39 PM UTC

Its a shame nobody cares, since this is a really nice language IMO.

Re: Kotlin M12 is out

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Post by zserge » Fri, May 29, 2015, 5:11 PM UTC

I'm now trying to use Buck build system with Kotlin. It looks like in the M12 kotlin-compiler.jar the annotation NotNull.class is embedded twice.

Re: Kotlin M12 is out

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Post by zserge » Fri, May 29, 2015, 5:13 PM UTC

jan1021488 wrote: post #2

Its a shame nobody cares, since this is a really nice language IMO.

Kotlin is a really good language. I really want it to be my primary language for android development. The only problem I have now is build times. It's about twice as slow to build a Kotlin app than Java app.

Re: Kotlin M12 is out

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Post by k__ » Fri, May 29, 2015, 6:41 PM UTC

zserge wrote: post #4

jan1021488 wrote: post #2

Its a shame nobody cares, since this is a really nice language IMO.

Kotlin is a really good language. I really want it to be my primary language for android development. The only problem I have now is build times. It's about twice as slow to build a Kotlin app than Java app.

Is this a jvm specific problem? Scala seems to have huge build times too.

Re: Kotlin M12 is out

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Post by zserge » Fri, May 29, 2015, 6:53 PM UTC

k__ wrote: post #5

zserge wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kotlin is a really good language. I really want it to be my primary language for android development. The only problem I have now is build times. It's about twice as slow to build a Kotlin app than Java app.

Is this a jvm specific problem? Scala seems to have huge build times too.

Big programming languages are built from big JARs (compiler, runtime, stdlib). Loading those each time in memory is a long process. Using nailgun saves ~10 seconds on my laptop.

Another problem is compiler performance (both Kotlin and Scala compilers compile less statements per second than Javac), but it's not that dramatic.

Finally, dexing languages with runtime (kotlin - ~200KB, scala - more than 1MB) takes time.

Luckily, Buck optimizes most of it.

Re: Kotlin M12 is out

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Post by tauchunfall » Fri, May 29, 2015, 7:13 PM UTC

jan1021488 wrote: post #2

Its a shame nobody cares, since this is a really nice language IMO.

True.

For me, the tight Java integration and low learning curve makes Kotlin a good candidate. Also good to have a modern language for all Android versions on the market. The compiler optimizations seem to be great, and their work to support things like Dagger, which modifies code at compile time, also seems fruitful.

edit: typos

Re: Kotlin M12 is out

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Post by tauchunfall » Fri, May 29, 2015, 7:22 PM UTC

For those who want to try it out: There is a small web-based editor with syntax highlighting, compile checking and code completion at http://try.kotlinlang.org/.

It currently runs on 0.11.91.1, but will (hopefully) soon be updated to 0.12.200 (M12). The reference documentation was already updated for M12: http://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/.