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RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

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Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#41

Another sweet new open soruce Slack alternative is Friends, https://github.com/moose-team/friends

Friends is P2P which could be useful for cutting out points of failure.

If it's p2p do you lose the ability to reliably store history and do search on it?

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

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So you set this up and you use it for a few hours and everyone on your team is like hey this is kinda cool. * a month or so passes * Now everyone is invested in the tool and since the expectations have been set by things like Slack they expect integrations to work flawlessly, search to be infinitely fast, 99% uptime, Google OpenID authentication, and a slew of other features and before you know it you have someone sp…

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Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#44

Funnily enough there are actually multiple Slack-like chat app projects underway in the Meteor community. I guess building a chat app is the new building a todo list app? Yesterday at Meteor's main meetup Devshop this was presented: http://spacetalkapp.com/ and the speaker mentioned that there's a big community effort underway to keep improving it. Let's see which one wins the race :)

I think chat apps are the new todo list app. Everyone is building one and frankly they are all boring and don't offer anything significant.

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#45

Another sweet new open soruce Slack alternative is Friends, https://github.com/moose-team/friends

There's also letschat: http://sdelements.github.io/lets-chat/ Dunno why people tend to flock over to the propietary option though. :(

Well for one thing, there's the hassle of maintaining it.

Don't get me wrong, I maintain lots of things. It's my full-time job. I count it as a victory every time I can gain some capability without adding some additional thing to maintain. Double victory even better every time I can take something I thought I needed to maintain and throw it on the scrap heap, eg because its functionality was subsumed by something else I need more.

Then there is security. If I take this open-source app and deploy it on my servers, and there is a vulnerability that results in privilege escalation, I have just opened up my network. Skilled admins will balk, but if I chat over Slack and there is a security vulnerability in Slack, even something related to my own (or my users' own) incompetence, I've just exposed... worst case is Slack, and Slack's network, and whatever my users already saw fit to expose to Slack.

It should already be eminently clear to my users that data in Slack's hands has left the garden of our own control, and is not to be trusted.

I am a proponent of other and opener Slack alternatives (to put it mildly), but I prefer things that come in a bigger stack, so when I waste my time setting them up, I get something back better than... my own watered-down version of Slack that I need to add to the maintenance charts.

(Insert small, shameless plug for Urbit, which has a centralized talk server and stores backlogs)

Re: RocketChat: Slack-like online chat, built with Meteor

#49

Funnily enough there are actually multiple Slack-like chat app projects underway in the Meteor community. I guess building a chat app is the new building a todo list app? Yesterday at Meteor's main meetup Devshop this was presented: http://spacetalkapp.com/ and the speaker mentioned that there's a big community effort underway to keep improving it. Let's see which one wins the race :)

> Join SpaceTalk on Slack.

So they're not eating their own dog food?

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