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Are mobile apps planned?
this. I've been looking for something to replace facebook messenger to use with my friends. Whatever it is, it would need mobile push notifications. Currently I'm using tinfoil facebook so not getting push messages causes me to miss long portions of conversations in my group chat and I don't want to just use another service, I'd rather host it
edit: just saw where you want to host it...
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I guess improving XMPP isn't as cool as building something brand new?
XMPP is XML-based, noisy, and just plain annoying to deal with. There's only so much polish that can be applied to a turd...
- https://github.com/xmpp-ftw/xmpp-ftw
It's really a shame when people can't look past the surface, and just emit vague subjective rebukes like this. XML may not be fashionable today, but really it poses no technical issues compared to the kinds of actual hard technical issues involved in making an open and decentralized IM network that XMPP has been solving for 15 years.
* a month or so passes *
Now everyone is invested in the tool and since the expectations have been set by things like Slack they expect integrations to work flawlessly, search to be infinitely fast, 99% uptime, Google OpenID authentication, and a slew of other features and before you know it you have someone spending two hours out of every day keeping it running.
As a personal project for kicks? Sure it's cool. Would I let me company run it? Hell no!
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this. I've been looking for something to replace facebook messenger to use with my friends. Whatever it is, it would need mobile push notifications. Currently I'm using tinfoil facebook so not getting push messages causes me to miss long portions of conversations in my group chat and I don't want to just use another service, I'd rather host it
Whats wrong with Telegram? https://telegram.org/ edit: just saw where you want to host it...
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XMPP is XML-based, noisy, and just plain annoying to deal with. There's only so much polish that can be applied to a turd...
- https://github.com/otalk/stanza.io - https://github.com/xmpp-ftw/xmpp-ftw It's really a shame when people can't look past the surface, and just emit vague subjective rebukes like this. XML may not be fashionable today, but really it poses no technical issues compared to the kinds of actual hard technical issues involved in making an open and decentralized IM network that XMPP has been solving for 15 years.
At the end of the day, the underlying product is still an overwrought, overly verbose mess, and the wrappers only serve to hide that. And following the law that all abstractions are leaky, you're going to have to touch it eventually.
A better replacement would be IRC. It serves almost all of the XMPP use cases with no extension, and i'd wager all of them with the right daemon and right plugins.
Are mobile apps planned?
this. I've been looking for something to replace facebook messenger to use with my friends. Whatever it is, it would need mobile push notifications. Currently I'm using tinfoil facebook so not getting push messages causes me to miss long portions of conversations in my group chat and I don't want to just use another service, I'd rather host it
So you set this up and you use it for a few hours and everyone on your team is like hey this is kinda cool. * a month or so passes * Now everyone is invested in the tool and since the expectations have been set by things like Slack they expect integrations to work flawlessly, search to be infinitely fast, 99% uptime, Google OpenID authentication, and a slew of other features and before you know it you have someone sp…
And your company wants to run OSS, so "has a guy" that already maintains the other pocketful of apps to company is using.
And since it is OSS, you can add Google OpenID auth if required.
And the slew of other features you want to add, but can't to Slack even if you knew about Slack.
Don't crap on the idea just because Slack is Slack and this isn't. Apply your "a month or so passes and now everyone is invested in the tool" scenario to any OSS alternative and your argument just comes off as fanboying.