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Re: Google Design

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Post by oldpond »

troycarlson wrote: post #12
joezydeco wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's gonna get worse before it gets better.... http://beta.united.com/ It it a button? Or a dialog box? Maybe it's an ad. Flip a coin!

Exactly...I don't understand it :( The new Azure portal looks very similar and it's borderline unusable. Unless I'm just resistant to change and will eventually warm up to it but it seems to violate a lot of fundamental design principles.

Exactly. This style just screams Windows 8 MS Surface design, and it's popping up all over. I think designers are having trouble blending "touchable" with "informative". The emphasis seems to be on touchable from the ground up now.

Re: Google Design

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Post by DanBC »

fsck--off wrote: post #95
Jare wrote: post #76

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That site is very clean, readable, understandable and (it seems) perfectly usable.

The contrast of the blue text(62a9e3) in the dropdown menu against the pure white background fails all WCAG guidelines. So it is not perfectly usable.

Do you have a link to that guideline? I know there are a bunch about allowing users to override whatever the webdesigner specifies, and about having sensible contrast.

Re: Google Design

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Post by nightpool »

mjhagen wrote: post #73
wldcordeiro wrote: post #38

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The Floating Action Button or FAB is supposed to be more than just a single action, usually it's a menu of the most used actions (in Google Inbox for example it allows you to compose an email, invite others, add a reminder and lists your most recent contacts.)

"most used actions" ... "invite others"

Its probably in the same group because A) they want people to invite others and keeping it there helps people remember they can and B) its pretty much the same class of action as sending an email.

here's a gif of me mousing over the FAB in my inbox: http://imgur.com/LuEZ57c

the yellow button at the very bottom is invite. Its hardly obnoxious, I can just continue to click and I don't have to think about it at all most of the time. (the top three are my three most frequent contacts)

Re: Google Design

#114

Post by nightpool »

Artemis2 wrote: post #66
kbd wrote: post #34

The most iconic feature of "material design" to me is the "create" button in the lower right-hand corner. Except if you're in landscape in, say, Gmail, it's in the center bottom since it's a part of the message list. Can someone explain why a create button is given this privileged and inconsistent position instead of being in a menubar like every other button in every app ever?

This thing is infuriating, I never remember how to create a new file in Google Drive now (it's the bottom right FAB located at a place yet unexplored in every desktop UI ever).

Huh? This is a screenshot of my google drive: http://imgur.com/oGjzhTJ

as you can see, "new" is in the same place its always been. No FAB.

EDIT: in retrospect, you might be talking about the docs site. (docs.google.com rather then drive.google.com) I spose the only thing I have to say about that is that no design guidelines are a magic bullet, and that I have no idea why they even have that separate docs site.

Re: Google Design

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Post by DanBC »

FreakyT wrote: post #28
jfuhrman wrote: post #22

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That's exactly what people said with their "Designed for IE" websites back during 2000 to 2004. Whatever happened to coding according to web standards? This isn't a small boutique shop that cannot afford testing, this is a huge multinational company.

> That's exactly what people said with their "Designed for IE" websites back during 2000 to 2004. Hardly. Mozilla/Gecko may have been obscure at the time, but it was under active development. Opera is very definitely dead. > Whatever happened to coding according to web standards? So by "web standards" do you mean "older web standards supported by an outdated browser"?

This is not an app, it's a web site. There's no reason for it to not work in web browsers - even obscure browsers like lynx.

And this website reliably crashes Google's own Chrome[1] on iOS on an iPhone 4s. It's fucking stupid that we've gone so far backwards with web design.

Re: Google Design

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Post by techpeace »

troycarlson wrote: post #10

Am I the only one who gets a headache trying to decipher tile layouts like this? My eyes bounce back and forth and I still have no idea how the information is structured or what's important. I appreciate that Google is sharing all of this though.

As do I, but I don't appreciate that I can't select any of the text on that page.

Re: Google Design

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Post by paganel »

troycarlson wrote: post #10

Am I the only one who gets a headache trying to decipher tile layouts like this? My eyes bounce back and forth and I still have no idea how the information is structured or what's important. I appreciate that Google is sharing all of this though.

I have an older version of FF and I only got to see a (britghish) blue screen, with nothing on it. I guess that's what they call minimal design nowadays.

Re: Google Design

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Post by anigbrowl »

joezydeco wrote: post #11
troycarlson wrote: post #10

Am I the only one who gets a headache trying to decipher tile layouts like this? My eyes bounce back and forth and I still have no idea how the information is structured or what's important. I appreciate that Google is sharing all of this though.

It's gonna get worse before it gets better.... http://beta.united.com/ It it a button? Or a dialog box? Maybe it's an ad. Flip a coin!

So true. People seem to forget that the reason we went with fake 3d UI in the first place was because people were having trouble with the previously-obtaining flat design. For a while, there was a nice simple visual grammar that told you what was editable, what was functional, and what was structural. Now I feel like we're falling back in the days of early Sierra videogames where some puzzles just required you to keep clicking around the screen until you found the invisible path. Skeumorphism was out of control but the trend has gone too far in the opposite direction, to the point where 'beautiful' has been turned into an empty marketing buzzword - it's now a synonym for obscurantists minimalism.

Re: Google Design

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Post by magicalist »

jfuhrman wrote: post #92
magicalist wrote: post #67

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The Google I/O site works fine in Opera. Not sure what you're seeing. Considering that Opera now uses Blink, that's not really surprising.

It comes up with a blank teal(?) color page for me. I disabled all extensions to make sure they're not causing the issue.

Are you an Opera 12 holdout? It's working just fine for me in Opera 28 on a Macbook pro

Re: Google Design

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Post by jontro »

Artemis2 wrote: post #66
kbd wrote: post #34

The most iconic feature of "material design" to me is the "create" button in the lower right-hand corner. Except if you're in landscape in, say, Gmail, it's in the center bottom since it's a part of the message list. Can someone explain why a create button is given this privileged and inconsistent position instead of being in a menubar like every other button in every app ever?

This thing is infuriating, I never remember how to create a new file in Google Drive now (it's the bottom right FAB located at a place yet unexplored in every desktop UI ever).

I always go into a previously created sheet or document and press create new. I really could not find it until I complained to a colleague and he told me
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