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The Fallen of World War II – An Interactive, Data-Driven Documentary

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Once again illustrates that it basically was the Russian winter that stopped the nazis.

Do the winters last for 1.5 years around St Petersburg?

From the diary of Otto Geipel: “1942: The winter comes with full strength, hardly a way left to advance without missing winter equipment. Even the winter clothing is missing. (. . .) At midnight the temperature dropped to a new reported low point. On 24 January 1942, –56 °C was measured at our division observation post.”

Temperatures like that make a difference.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do the winters last for 1.5 years around St Petersburg?

From the diary of Otto Geipel: “1942: The winter comes with full strength, hardly a way left to advance without missing winter equipment. Even the winter clothing is missing. (. . .) At midnight the temperature dropped to a new reported low point. On 24 January 1942, –56 °C was measured at our division observation post.” Temperatures like that make a difference.

Weather conditions like this make a difference and lower the dynamics of the war. Strategically, there are more factors like supply lines, wrong strategic decisions, and an industrial complex that us sufficient enough to regenerate the losses [1].

[1] http://strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/parameters/Ar...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think the 20 million Soviet war dead had anything to do with it?

Here's some scientific evidence of the Russian winters 1940 - 1942 being particularily harsh: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1256/wea.248.04/pdf Of course, it did not help that Hitler thought he could advance much faster and did not even prepare for winter. Those two winters weakened the Germans significantly.

Here's some scientific evidence of the Russians throwing over 20 million human lifes [1] into german gun barrels: take a look at the original post. You mentioning the winter twice seems quite cynical in context.

[1] I've recently read a newish book about the casualties on the eastern front which suggests (based on research by western scholars) that the actual numbers were probably well over 32 million people and due to political reasons had been down played a lot by soviet sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the...

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> Though most of the video deals with the number of deaths, towards the last 10% of the video, the focus is on the PEACE we are enjoying today. The comparison between how bad the world was in the past to how good it is now, is staggering. Indeed. What worries me is how deeply dependent that peace has been on policymakers having living memories of how terrible World War 2 actually was, and of how Hiroshima and Nagasak…

Even WWII was started on the assumption that it would be a quick and relatively painless war. I suspect that modern missile technology makes this assumption flatly invalid.

Actually, is there some analysis on that?

I always suspected that, with all the high-tech equipment, after the initial stockpile is gone (and a few hundred planes is not a lot if you look at WW2), it's much harder to scale up production (if one country alone even produces all the necessary parts like semiconductors, rocket engines, etc.).

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Well done visualizations of the number of military & civilian deaths occurred during second world war. The video version was a bit long, yet rich in details. The interactive vis. in the middle of the video was useful. Though most of the video deals with the number of deaths, towards the last 10% of the video, the focus is on the PEACE we are enjoying today. The comparison between how bad the world was in the past to…

> Though most of the video deals with the number of deaths, towards the last 10% of the video, the focus is on the PEACE we are enjoying today. The comparison between how bad the world was in the past to how good it is now, is staggering. Indeed. What worries me is how deeply dependent that peace has been on policymakers having living memories of how terrible World War 2 actually was, and of how Hiroshima and Nagasak…

What you get is the current middle eastern situation. Everyone believed invading Iraq would be quick and easy, which it was, and that the reconstruction would be like the post-WW2 reconstruction of Europe, which it really wasn't.

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Who else noticed the flag of China? It should be called ROC or Taiwan if you use that flag.

Not at all.

During WWII, that was already the flag of the Republic of China, which happened to be the only "China" in existence at the time.

No other flag was used then, so it would be anachronistic to use communist China's flag here, and Taiwan was not part of China at the time so it would be even worse to talk about Taiwan fighting the war.

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