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My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by hiroproto »

g960 wrote: post #13
known wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.firstpost.com/living/india-a-civilisation-of-rapi...

Breed lots of self-hating hindus and that's what you get. And it is Hindus. I don't see pedophilia and Nun-rapes in the Indian church being so loudly talked about by the Indian Christian community. Perhaps Hindus should just convert to Chritianity en masse and join the global brotherhood already. Their desperation to please us folk in the West is very endearing.

Breed lots of stupid people and we get people like who are oblivious to the realities of the world they live in. Pedophilia and nun rapes are decried the world over and everyone talks about them so much so that pedo jokes are a routine comedy lines in american stand up. They acknowledge their problems willingly and try to solve them, not indulge in what aboutism and deflection like you do.

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by g960 »

hiroproto wrote: post #21
g960 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Breed lots of self-hating hindus and that's what you get. And it is Hindus. I don't see pedophilia and Nun-rapes in the Indian church being so loudly talked about by the Indian Christian community. Perhaps Hindus should just convert to Chritianity en masse and join the global brotherhood already. Their desperation to please us folk in the West is very endearing.

Breed lots of stupid people and we get people like who are oblivious to the realities of the world they live in. Pedophilia and nun rapes are decried the world over and everyone talks about them so much so that pedo jokes are a routine comedy lines in american stand up. They acknowledge their problems willingly and try to solve them, not indulge in what aboutism and deflection like you do.

Indian Christian community.

Perhaps you ought to put on your reading glasses Prof. Witzel.

They acknowledge their problems willingly and try to solve them

Sure they do. I'm sure the Vatican painted itself as a culture of pedophiles. Oh wait. No they didn't.

Reply to your top post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_India#Rape_statistics

(and citations under "Estimates of unreported rapes")

I'm sure you'll also argue that 50% for the US is way too low. Perhaps this should help.

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

To others: see what I mean by "Hinduphobe" ?

You sicken me.

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by bandrami »

There's an NGO I work with that teaches girls in Dharavi (the big slum in Mumbai) to program Android apps. They did a great job.

I think a lot of people in the US don't get that in a lot of ways, the middle class in Mumbai or Hyderabad is really a lot like the middle class in the US (it doesn't help that the diaspora in the US mostly came over in the 60s and 70s, and there's a kind of "frozen in amber" quality of their memories of the old country).

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by tamaatar »

hiroproto wrote: post #17
g960 wrote: post #3

Are you telling me that you aren't molested in your workplace everyday ? I was made to believe that all Indians are bred as little monsters in the cauldron of a rampant "rape culture". I'm completely confused having read this post, esp after a similar one on the US appeared last on HN, https://medium.com/@katylevinson/sexism-in-tech-don-t-ask-me... See, it's even on Broadway! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/28/theater…

Wow, so one anecdote nullifies everything that happens in the country? Are you blind or deaf ? So you're saying sexism in India is less than that in USA ? I don't see women in USA fearing quitting their jobs if they earn more than husbands. Nor are they forced to stay at home to cook/housework essentially killing their dreams of having a career. Step out of your bubble buddy and ask the women around you what they fee…

And your comment is doing what exactly? India is a huge country with a huge population. It is also very VERY diverse. With a billion+ people, yes some bad things do happen. But so do a lot of good things. Not every Indian man is so insecure that he forces wife to quit jobs if they earn more. And forced to stay home and cook? How many Indian women have you see doing that. We are a family oriented society and most women chose to do that and I am very proud of those Indian women. I can discuss this on and on but obviously you are inside your own bubble where USA is the greatest and "going out of the house and working for a company" is the greatest feat anyone can achieve and that's the only mark of liberation of women. And public transport? Hey read about Indian railways. It carried millions and millions of women around everyday and they are doing just fine.

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by Nico2706 »

bandrami wrote: post #23

There's an NGO I work with that teaches girls in Dharavi (the big slum in Mumbai) to program Android apps. They did a great job. I think a lot of people in the US don't get that in a lot of ways, the middle class in Mumbai or Hyderabad is really a lot like the middle class in the US (it doesn't help that the diaspora in the US mostly came over in the 60s and 70s, and there's a kind of "frozen in amber" quality of the…

Do you have the name of this NGO, I'm interested to learn more about their experience.

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by rimantas »

richmarr wrote: post #18
dijit wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an unpopular opinion on the types of people who keep harping on about sexism in tech. And I'm not in a position to say it doesn't exist- (being a white guy and full of privilege), however it does seem that a lot of girls in tech are making a career of painting all other engineers as being inherently misogynistic, vacuous or malicious. I mean, I don't believe we should put barriers up for women who want to be i…

> ...it does seem that a lot of girls in tech are making a career of painting > all other engineers as being inherently misogynistic, vacuous or malicious. Be very wary of hyperbole on topics like this. It's deeply divisive. If you can't make your point without exaggerating then maybe rethink? > I think it's very popular to be a social justice kind of person... So you're saying that people are promoting an equitable…

  > So you're saying that people are promoting an equitable
  > tech industry because they think it's cool?
It is not cool, it is just easy. No effort to understand a problem even less effort to understand is there really a problem, just band your keyboard and rant how offended you are by this or by that. I think this is a result of responsibility collapse—by that I mean that some topics have become so knee-jerky, so when even some words are taboo the concepts behind them are inaccessible so people are not able to think about them. This results in people not really understanding what racism is (so any mention of color of the skin is regarded racist, religion get mixed with race, the whole notion that "black people cannot be racist", etc.) The same goes for sexism and other -isms. When you no longer know if something is a problem you just react to trigger words and take a SJW stance—I guess it somehow assures that you are not *ist of some kind. A lot like homophobes are vocal against gay people so god forbid someone will thin they are gay themselves. And of course if one does indeed has some tendencies the volume of their vocality increases just to drown that quiet voice of doubt.

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by rimantas »

g960 wrote: post #7
dijit wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an unpopular opinion on the types of people who keep harping on about sexism in tech. And I'm not in a position to say it doesn't exist- (being a white guy and full of privilege), however it does seem that a lot of girls in tech are making a career of painting all other engineers as being inherently misogynistic, vacuous or malicious. I mean, I don't believe we should put barriers up for women who want to be i…

I don't know if you read the (sarcasm) at the end. I find it ironic that while you shower self-pity when it comes to the US but paint India black anyway. India infact has a lower crime rate against women than the US (even after accounting for differences in reporting rates). Delhi comes out being "safer" than D.C; South India is apparently much safer (author appears to be from Chennai?). I'm given to believe that thi…

  > India infact has a lower crime rate against women than the
  > US (even after accounting for differences in reporting 
  > rates).
Does it include female foetuses aborted just because of the sex?

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by pjc50 »

g960 wrote: post #10
dijit wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not American. Actually, my experience with crime rates is that where crime is common it goes unreported. I come from a city in Britain which has a very strong crime culture, but it's never reported. I imagine if you get raped by your uncle, and so does your friend, and your friend has reported it before and nothing happened- you'd be dissuaded from reporting it too. but I digress. I don't have a particularly obje…

I come from a city in Britain Britain has a higher rate than the US. My argument still holds. Actually, my experience with crime rates is that where crime is common it goes unreported. Given nominal reporting rates of 50% for D.C (which is being far too kind), and 10% (which is far too harsh) for Delhi, still leaves it twice as safe (and thrice as safe as London). It takes an hour to dig up the data online. > I can o…

http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checkin...

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by DanBC »

dijit wrote: post #20
brador wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which city in Britain has a strong crime culture? London?

Coventry.. it was industrious once. Now it's very crime-addled. However almost all of it goes unreported. it's only after leaving a culture like that you realise it's so strange. Edit: Hm, I got downvoted. Lets see if I can break down a summary of my life for people who don't think Coventry is bad (news articles in google seem to say it's not bad anymore). but, stats: I've been mugged 17 times in 20 years, my home ha…

You got downvoted for making an extreme claim (crime riddled; extremely dangerous place to live) that just isn't supported by stats, and then claiming that the stats are wrong.

Assuming for the moment that the police stats are wrong we'd still see increased insurance costs for people living in Coventry, and we don't.

Support your claims with more than anecdote.

Re: My Experience in Tech and Its Reflection on Women in Tech in India

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Post by maccard »

Nico2706 wrote: post #25
bandrami wrote: post #23

There's an NGO I work with that teaches girls in Dharavi (the big slum in Mumbai) to program Android apps. They did a great job. I think a lot of people in the US don't get that in a lot of ways, the middle class in Mumbai or Hyderabad is really a lot like the middle class in the US (it doesn't help that the diaspora in the US mostly came over in the 60s and 70s, and there's a kind of "frozen in amber" quality of the…

Do you have the name of this NGO, I'm interested to learn more about their experience.

Googling for Darvai Girls app sent me to this: http://efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=155811
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