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Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

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Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

#111

Anyone like to recommend a browser-extension-based VPN tool that's a bit more respectful than Hola and is relatively cheap? (Of course I run my own VPN server using OpenVPN, but Hola is really convenient when I'm only trying to get an American IP to avoid Australian geoblocking - it's also easy for non-technical friends to use.)

Try https://zenmate.com/

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

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They explicitly state in their FAQ how this works and why their service is able to be free: http://hola.org/faq#in_how_is_free They even have a non-free option that eliminates the VPN as a proxy feature. "Hola built a peer to peer overlay network for HTTP, which securely routes the sites you choose through other Hola users' devices and not through expensive servers. Hola never takes up valuable resources from these u…

Out of interest: Do other vpns work the same way? Even if it's clearly stated in the FAQ, not everybody reads them.

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

#113

This made me laugh--I wonder how many innocent people are going to have the FBI kick their doors down for things that past through their "exit nodes" that they hosted.

I wish it was the other way around, mass-spread sharing of internet access leading to it becoming the norm and people finally getting some privacy from mixing their connections.

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

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This is basically why you never want to use a proprietary client with any VPN service, you don't know what you're getting into at all. At least with PPtP/L2TP/OpenVPN based services you can use well known clients or OS vendor provided clients that are unlikely to have little goodies like this.

Good luck with that in China mate!

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

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Isn't 8chan that enabled gamergate to continue? If so, anything bad happened to your site is actually beneficial.

Explain what is wrong with gamergate. I don't game so I don't know. Seems to me reddit is the site you should be hating. Edit: Actually after thinking it over, it's free speech you should be against. It really sucks when sites host opinions you don't agree with doesn't it? I googled gamer gate and they seem to be against people exactly like you: People who want to shut down other peoples opinions that they don't agre…

What's wrong with gamergate is that they pissed off the media. Officially, it's because they're trying to harass women out of gaming, but (a) they're not, and (b) almost everyone opposed to them is quite happy to side with people who are just because gamergate is against them. Like, there's one guy who sent a massive number of specific, actionable death threats against Leigh Alexander and other women in tech, and pretty much everyone has sided with him because gamergate tried to get the police to take action against his threats and portrayed this as proof gg is evil, even though that's exactly what they're supposedly calling for the police to do.

The most ricidulous thing is, there are actually boards on 8chan that actually do the things gamergate is accused of, like swatting, doxing and so on, but they usually get a free pass because no-one cares about those things anymore except as a way to attack gamergate.

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

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You seem rather high on the moral horse for someone hosting child/underage porn.

Source that proves he's hosting such things? Are you arguing against anonymity on the internet altogether? IMO Mr. Brennan is a hero for taking on the risks associated with hosting an anonymous image board and not backing down in the face of people who time and time again continue to slander his name. I don't want to live in a world where people live in fear of hosting an anonymous image board.

What did the parent comment originally say?

For the record, Brennan has admitted that 8chan has boards for sexualizing minors (which is legal) though he doesn't support them.

" Unfortunately, yes. I don’t support the content on the boards you mentioned, but it is simply the cost of free speech and being the only active site to not impose more 'laws' than those that were passed in Washington, D.C.

...if you want /doll/ shut down you should instead focus on the studios who are producing this content. Some of them are even legally based in the USA. That’s the real story here, not some perverts posting them online after the fact. "

https://medium.com/@infinitechan/what-i-actually-said-to-pat...

Edit: Better source

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

#117

Anyone have VPN recommendations?

For technically inclined people, setting up your own SOCKS proxy is the simplest method possible. 1. Get a cheap server (ex: DigitalOcean $5/month) in the city/country you want to connect through. 2. Add these 2 lines to /etc/ssh/sshd_config: AllowTcpForwarding yes GatewayPorts yes 3. Restart sshd (service ssh restart), or restart the server. 4. Connect to the server setting a dynamic port forward. On linux or Mac, t…

As far as I know, that leads to terrible performance.

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

#118
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Anyone knows a better alternative to luminati.io? We've been using it in our company but it feels expensive. I thought this thread may be good place to ask for an alternative.

Spin up VPS instances across multiple cities, countries and continents. Hook them up with Docker and connect them with Swarm. Label them with an IP/city/country/continent combination. Use Docker Swarm's affinity labelling to start instances in a particular city when needed. Additionally record the last IPs used and use Swarm to not deploy to those servers.

We scrape more than 120,000 web pages per day.

Cost of spinning up VPS instances, maintaining the software needed (to automatically close/open new ones and provision them) could be higher than the 20$/GB pricing Luminati offers.

Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Luminati angle is new, but the fact that free Hola users are used as peers or exit nodes is common knowledge among better informed users. I've warned others of that fact in the past myself. Of course, I imagine most users are not so well informed.

Indeed, I knew for a while too, but I let it go so long as all posts were made by humans. But selling an API at $20/GB (bandwidth you pay $0 for) to flood message boards and scrape search engines from random people's IPs without their consent is horribly unethical in my opinion. Edited to add: I also see it as a breach of trust in the original agreement, even if you were fully informed that by installing Hola you bec…

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Re: Hola VPN turns 10M users into exit nodes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when an asteroid falls on your head? So far as I have been able to discover, the number of times your scenario has occurred in real life could be counted on one hand.

You should become a tor exit node and look at the traffic. It will shock the fuck out of all your libertarian thinking.

Such as? Could you give a description for those of us who don't want to risk actually doing this? I'm guessing you're referring to CP.
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