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FIFA Officials Arrested on Corruption Charges; Face Extradition to U.S

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Re: FIFA Officials Arrested on Corruption Charges; Face Extradition to U.S

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Specifically soccer-related infrastructure, i.e. stadiums. The United States could host four World Cups simultaneously without having to build any more stadiums. Qatar has to build almost everything from scratch.

You should remember that Brazil built (or rebuilt from scratch) all stadiums used on the world cup. Qatar would build them on less time and less money, I suppose.

Brazil also has an Olympics coming up and a healthy national soccer league. I'm fairly certain they will be able to reuse a lot of those stadiums, so the benefit of that construction will extend for quite a while longer.

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/s/hundreds/thousands working under the kalafa , the euphemism for slavery in middle east. Slavery exists everywhere(yes even in Europe and US) but it's generally not something organized at the state level, it is usually illegal.

Where does slavery exist in the US? You know we had a war about that an all... It didn't end up super well for the slavers.

(Private) Prisons. Prisoners have no labor rights in the US and earn cents per hour making textiles, office furniture, military wire, id-tags, vests, etc. Private prison corporations contract out this labor to clients like the DoD, Wal-Mart, Costco, etc.

It creates an incentive for the prison industry to lobby for more prisons, tougher anti-crime laws, tougher border crossing penalties, longer sentences. The profits incentivize a total lack of addressing recidivism.

1 out of 4 prisoners in the world occupy a US prison (we account for what? 4-5% of the world's population?). Violent crimes have been trending down over 20 years, but prisoner population as a percentage is at an all time high due to tougher drug convictions.

Also, then there's huge factory farms, which are known to use migrants of questionable citizenship as laborers, and report them to the police when they complain.

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Lots of stuff built is just a giant money pit and nobody benefit from it after the games. http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/ghosts-of-olympics-past?... http://www.businessinsider.com/sochi-olympics-ghost-city-201... http://distractify.com/culture/sports/haunting-images-of-aba...

Surely that's a question of implementation not inevitability?

> Surely that's a question of implementation not inevitability?

Not really. While there might be some cases where some of the infrastructure is something where the operating/maintenance costs would be justified but which didn't get built because of the up-front capital costs, and where hosting a special event which happened to need the same infrastructure might provide an excuse (or an otherwise-unavailable source of funding) for the capital costs, that's rather exceptional. Normally, the most of the infrastructure needed for the event consists of things for which the operations/maintenance costs would not be justified once the event is over.

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For the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, Fox paid $425 million for U.S. English-language broadcasting rights, and NBC's Telemundo paid another $600 million for Spanish-language rights [1]. That's already a billion dollars from the U.S. By comparison, FIFA's worldwide revenue from broadcasting rights for the 2014 World Cup was around $2.4 billion [2]. American soccer fans might only constitute a small fraction of soccer fans…

> The same package cost ESPN just $100 million for the previous two World Cups, in 2010 and 2014 It's clear the TV broadcasting price has jumped rapidly over the years. You can't compare the current revenue with a future deal. 100 million over two world cups is still a tiny portion compared to 2.4 billion in one world cup.

FIFA can't cut the US out of past World Cups. The future lost revenue is what is relevant for any retaliation FIFA may try to take against the US.

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It'll be the top post ever in /r/soccer in no time, it's already fourth and was only submitted four hours ago. I truly hope that Blatter is ousted, the Qatar decision is reversed and given to a nation that with a less-appalling human rights record and some actual interest in football. I can't name a single Qatari club or player and know nothing of their league (other than Gabriel Batistuta played there for a year at…

Apparently, hosting a World Cup has become a net negative to a country. The costs (significant and increasing) go to the government and the profits go to FIFA and the sponsors.

This is highly dependent on the host nation. The biggest factor is that they have already invested a large amount in infrastructure and/or will continue to make use of the facilities after the event. The 94 Cup in the US and the 2006 Cup in Germany are the two most recent examples. It is very hard for developing nations like South Africa, Brazil, or Qatar to have any chance of turning a net profit.

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/s/hundreds/thousands working under the kalafa , the euphemism for slavery in middle east. Slavery exists everywhere(yes even in Europe and US) but it's generally not something organized at the state level, it is usually illegal.

Where does slavery exist in the US? You know we had a war about that an all... It didn't end up super well for the slavers.

> Where does slavery exist in the US?

Every few years since, IIRC, at least the mid- to late-1980s there seems to be a new exposé about various forms of slavery in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (particularly Saipan), though that may have been at least somewhat mitigated in the last few years by Congress' federalization of CNMI labor and immigration policy in 2008.

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/s/hundreds/thousands working under the kalafa , the euphemism for slavery in middle east. Slavery exists everywhere(yes even in Europe and US) but it's generally not something organized at the state level, it is usually illegal.

Where does slavery exist in the US? You know we had a war about that an all... It didn't end up super well for the slavers.

I know a guy who rescued several people from slavery in Florida. Here's an article about it from the New Yorker from 2003:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/04/21/nobodies

Since then, they've helped the government rescue over 1,000 people from slavery in the southeast U.S.

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/s/hundreds/thousands working under the kalafa , the euphemism for slavery in middle east. Slavery exists everywhere(yes even in Europe and US) but it's generally not something organized at the state level, it is usually illegal.

Where does slavery exist in the US? You know we had a war about that an all... It didn't end up super well for the slavers.

The term generally used is "prison".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_State...

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