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FIFA Officials Arrested on Corruption Charges; Face Extradition to U.S

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I have unofficial reports of Obama riding a banana

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/30/sport/football/football-pl... It claims that Putin was initially skeptical about Russia's bid but had later thrown his full weight behind the process. "He (Putin) took a personal interest in the running of the bid in mid-2010," the committee report reveals. Under the heading, "Intelligence relating to Russia 2018" a series of allegations are revealed about Putin's role in brokering a…

Anyone can claim anything to make the other look bad. Russia claims the allegations are unfounded speculation.

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White House makes the first step towards enforcing mass boycott of the Russian World Cup as punishment for flexing its muscles in its old spheres of influence. I'm all for dismantling and/or restructuring FIFA, but the timing is rather opportune.

"Flexing its muscles in its old spheres of influence" is an interesting way to say, "invading and taking over another country."

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According to the Swiss Federal Office of Justice, the bribery has occurred in the US and paid through US banks : The bribery suspects [...] are alleged to have been involved in schemes to make payments to the soccer functionaries [...] totaling more than USD 100 million. In return, it is believed that they received media, marketing, and sponsorship rights in connection with soccer tournaments in Latin America. Accord…

This makes a ton of sense now with the increased scrutiny of US financial institutions as of late.

There a lot of problems with financial institutions that would be detected by "increased scrutiny " before something like this...

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/30/sport/football/football-pl... It claims that Putin was initially skeptical about Russia's bid but had later thrown his full weight behind the process. "He (Putin) took a personal interest in the running of the bid in mid-2010," the committee report reveals. Under the heading, "Intelligence relating to Russia 2018" a series of allegations are revealed about Putin's role in brokering a…

Anyone can claim anything to make the other look bad. Russia claims the allegations are unfounded speculation.

Funny how pro-Russian skeptics were "There will never be arrests or actions based on this, it is all CIA propaganda!" and now there are literally arrests and soon trials. Lets see what comes out at the trials before writing further Putin hagiographies. The intel quoted led to these arrests and while the narrative in the press is Qatar, we do know from what leaked, that Russia is involved as well.

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Counterpoint - the infrastructure stays around. The stadiums get used and re-used, transport improvements benefit locals in perpetuity, tourism/trade brings in money to the economy, not to mention there are general "morale" reasons to host. These are not profit making events to host, or at least they ought not to be. The benefits are varied and certainly not trivially reducible to profit/loss on the event itself.

Lots of stuff built is just a giant money pit and nobody benefit from it after the games. http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/ghosts-of-olympics-past?... http://www.businessinsider.com/sochi-olympics-ghost-city-201... http://distractify.com/culture/sports/haunting-images-of-aba...

Surely that's a question of implementation not inevitability?

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Counterpoint - the infrastructure stays around. The stadiums get used and re-used, transport improvements benefit locals in perpetuity, tourism/trade brings in money to the economy, not to mention there are general "morale" reasons to host. These are not profit making events to host, or at least they ought not to be. The benefits are varied and certainly not trivially reducible to profit/loss on the event itself.

Counter-counterpoint: 3 of the 10 stadiums built in Portugal for the Euro 2004 have been considered for demolition because they have been largely unused since the tournament and the municipalities have no way to fund their basic maintenance.

The same applies to Cape Town Stadium.

In many ways, the World Cup was a tragic waste of resources for South Africa, and even though it showcased the country (for that one month the South African government showed it could rise above mediocrity), the opportunity was soon squandered.

Most of the alleged spin-off infrastructure (Gautrain, new Durban Airport and Gauteng highways), would have happened regardless, and probably at much lower cost, because of price fixing and the general supply-and-demand situation in the construction industry as a result of the World Cup.

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How so? When you count viewership, of course they will combine number of viewers from each match, considering most of the viewers will tune in for just a few matches. This is common sense, I don't think there is anything suspicious about that.

Seriously? Down-voted for explaining my point? This place is as pathetic as reddit.

4 billion viewers is a lot different to 4 billion views

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Anyone can claim anything to make the other look bad. Russia claims the allegations are unfounded speculation.

Funny how pro-Russian skeptics were "There will never be arrests or actions based on this, it is all CIA propaganda!" and now there are literally arrests and soon trials. Lets see what comes out at the trials before writing further Putin hagiographies. The intel quoted led to these arrests and while the narrative in the press is Qatar, we do know from what leaked, that Russia is involved as well.

Lets see what comes out at the trials before writing further Putin slander, also?

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In what sense does Qatar have "no infrastructure"?

Specifically soccer-related infrastructure, i.e. stadiums. The United States could host four World Cups simultaneously without having to build any more stadiums. Qatar has to build almost everything from scratch.

I thought it just wasn't just stadiums, but stadiums that could provide enough cooling so that the game could actually be played during a Qatari summer.
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