I just installed the latest Windows 10 build in a VM, and I'm remarkably impressed. Cortana is working much better than expected, and I'm loving the new start menu. I'm planning on switching to Win10 full time for at least 6 months or so after release; been on OS X for many years, but I much prefer the direction MS is going, these days. It looks like they're going to be the first folks to really get a universal ecosystem across desktops, tablets, and phones; frankly, I'm surprised it wasn't Google.
Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
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Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Internal MS voting circle. Edit: Not to say they're necessarily doing it on purpose or for marketing: Microsofties would receive these urls internally, and if only 20 or so of them immediately submitted them to HN, it would go to the top of the frontage. Although personally and knowing the extremes Microsoft goes to with marketing, I'd also not doubt if said Microsofties were 'informally encouraged' to share such lin…
Yep, and the admins should be able to see that. They should get one warning to stop or all accounts involved should be banned.
Is it brigading if I post a permalink to a comment on slack?
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Internal MS voting circle. Edit: Not to say they're necessarily doing it on purpose or for marketing: Microsofties would receive these urls internally, and if only 20 or so of them immediately submitted them to HN, it would go to the top of the frontage. Although personally and knowing the extremes Microsoft goes to with marketing, I'd also not doubt if said Microsofties were 'informally encouraged' to share such lin…
Yep, and the admins should be able to see that. They should get one warning to stop or all accounts involved should be banned.
It's slightly tricky because people usually upvote what they are interested in. Therefore if a big bunch of people are interested in Win10, then it is just completely normal if they upvote these topics. Similarly, basically every new Apple hardware ends up on the top of HN. Same applies to many other things -- secure messaging, depression/burnout related articles, all Tesla news, etc.
It's very hard to run a news site and keep stuff out that actually interest people.
I very much doubt that these articles are upvoted by employees, etc.
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Internal MS voting circle. Edit: Not to say they're necessarily doing it on purpose or for marketing: Microsofties would receive these urls internally, and if only 20 or so of them immediately submitted them to HN, it would go to the top of the frontage. Although personally and knowing the extremes Microsoft goes to with marketing, I'd also not doubt if said Microsofties were 'informally encouraged' to share such lin…
Your theory probably explains why my comment got down-voted so much. Within 2 seconds of positing it had 3 upvotes now look at it.
Within two seconds? I'm calling BS on that. But I downvoted it as soon as I saw it. It's nonsensical FUD and added nothing to the conversation.
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
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Your theory probably explains why my comment got down-voted so much. Within 2 seconds of positing it had 3 upvotes now look at it.
Within two seconds? I'm calling BS on that. But I downvoted it as soon as I saw it. It's nonsensical FUD and added nothing to the conversation.
I refreshed the page as soon as I posted it and it had +3
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
#16I'm really looking forward to Windows 10, but how come every single marketing page they put out instantly lands on the front page around the top results?
Internal MS voting circle. Edit: Not to say they're necessarily doing it on purpose or for marketing: Microsofties would receive these urls internally, and if only 20 or so of them immediately submitted them to HN, it would go to the top of the frontage. Although personally and knowing the extremes Microsoft goes to with marketing, I'd also not doubt if said Microsofties were 'informally encouraged' to share such lin…
>Microsofties would receive these urls internally, and if only 20 or so of them immediately submitted them to HN, it would go to the top of the frontage.
>Although personally and knowing the extremes Microsoft goes to with marketing, I'd also not doubt if said Microsofties were 'informally encouraged' to share such links on social media as much as possible.
The blog was posted publicly around 6 hours ago, this post was made less than one hour ago.
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Internal MS voting circle. Edit: Not to say they're necessarily doing it on purpose or for marketing: Microsofties would receive these urls internally, and if only 20 or so of them immediately submitted them to HN, it would go to the top of the frontage. Although personally and knowing the extremes Microsoft goes to with marketing, I'd also not doubt if said Microsofties were 'informally encouraged' to share such lin…
Yep, and the admins should be able to see that. They should get one warning to stop or all accounts involved should be banned.
Linking to an HN post internally and saying "please upvote this" is wrong; multiple people independently deciding they want to post or upvote the article, even multiple people from the same company, seems completely fine.
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
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Yep, and the admins should be able to see that. They should get one warning to stop or all accounts involved should be banned.
Won't happen - there's little doubt that each person adding an upvote would be a real person. In order to police something like that you'd be effectively policing people's reasons for upvoting which is impossible.
They should be able to see that a bunch of immediate up votes to this submission were from Redmond, WA IP blocks. There's no need to guess as to motivation then.
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Internal MS voting circle. Edit: Not to say they're necessarily doing it on purpose or for marketing: Microsofties would receive these urls internally, and if only 20 or so of them immediately submitted them to HN, it would go to the top of the frontage. Although personally and knowing the extremes Microsoft goes to with marketing, I'd also not doubt if said Microsofties were 'informally encouraged' to share such lin…
Your theory probably explains why my comment got down-voted so much. Within 2 seconds of positing it had 3 upvotes now look at it.
I downvoted it as well, for the simple reason that you post has _nothing_ to do with this article, and because the whole thing about click/key logging is nonsense (at least in the RTM, yes I know they're gathering statistics for the previews, and they have been very open and honest about that).
Re: Windows 10: Designed for All Your Devices
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, and the admins should be able to see that. They should get one warning to stop or all accounts involved should be banned.
It's slightly tricky because people usually upvote what they are interested in. Therefore if a big bunch of people are interested in Win10, then it is just completely normal if they upvote these topics. Similarly, basically every new Apple hardware ends up on the top of HN. Same applies to many other things -- secure messaging, depression/burnout related articles, all Tesla news, etc. It's very hard to run a news sit…
The web developer community is well known to have a massive Apple bias. I'm not surprised by Apple stuff going to the top quickly, usually.
But this post in particular is suspect because it is totally devoid of content. Look at the comments so far, the most discussion has been prompted by the lack of content resulting in wondering how on earth this got to the top so quickly.
I'd bet dollars to donuts there was coordinated voting by Microsoft employees. Lots of companies do it on reddit, it's much less common here at HN (I think), but it still does happen.